I don’t care what people try to say about my personal skill. It’s not a measure in the game, where stock grind and random
You said “I have a t80, they are the easiest thing to play as all you do is hold w and win. Thats if your skilled enough to click your mouse that is.”
And now you are saying “was stock”. So, if the armor is as strong as you say, shouldn’t it also be strong when stock?
So, it turns out that some things shouldn’t be exaggerated. You haven’t even played the ru tree above rank 4. I have grinded both british and russian top tier in same time period.
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If you ever get to play this game well one day, you’ll realize it’s not like that.
Just gonna give my 2 cents I personally think that the 11.0 br is to Low but it’s not a horrible br as it is similar to the t-72b3 but it has its upsides and its downsides for example it doesn’t get the era and engine buff but it does have aps which at 11.3 and 11.0 you will be facing often because of the pumas, jaguars the fnf missile spam and early hellfires also starting at this br but at 11.0 you face the Bradly for example where there basically only anti-tank ability is tow-2s which will be molested by your aps. As well as at 11.3 you have a solid br of the bmp-ts t-90s and ka-50s. So in conclusion 11.0 is a fine br for it but as general balance put it 11.3.
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The T-72B3 arena is at best a sidegrade to thr T-90A.
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What not like that? I came to this game in 2022, I’m not active player, won’t gonna lie, bought premium vehicle after getting bored on low ranks and it was different experience for me, mistakes and mistakes. I had 0.4K/D on XM1(GM), my gameplay was most of downtier against T72 Turms, BMP2-M and 2S38 untill they were nerfed a little bit. Even now it’s hard to raise low K/D if you don’t being passive and don’t play 1000 battles.
As I wrote, maps aren’t flat, penetration and damage is different from what you can check in hangar. If your gameplay stuck to the rock and expecting enemy to have 2+K/D ,then it’s not experience, it’s passive gameplay. Add here any stock grind that reduce your effectivity, simply having no damage, while other have. Add here issue with invisible and soundless vehicles, that you couldn’t see and hear. That’s all affecting K/D with game style.
All tanks have similar death, whatever it’s Abrams, Leopard or T-80, even if to check Protection Analysis in hangar, you can see Abrams shares same weak points with T-series, but your mobility in battle is wind if you get shot and disarmed, second shot will finish fight. I had many battles where I supposed to one-shot T-series ,but it didn’t.
So yes, I don’t care about K/D in game that has too much random, and I don’t mock or blame others for having low K/D knowing how game punishes for gameplay if you don’t stay behind rock for 30 minutes, or not being rat on toxic vehicle.
B3 Arena will be underrated same as Turms, will survive assaulting from sky, it has incredible shell for 12.7 to one-shot, for vast of players who stays behind rock this tank will be OP, in chain with Su-25 and Ka-50 players will have pleasure, especially when they will sit top tier.
If someone really plays this game, then they can understand, not pretending only High-Super-Mega skilled 3+K/D players could understand. Community should stop manipulating and misleading others because of K/D.
The APS only has a +20° vertical coverage. It will mostly be useful against manually guided ATGMs, it will be pretty mid against CAS.
If that happens you aren’t using your mobility correctly.
Hmmm maybe because it’s just a mid vehicle?
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How is it a side grade when the B3 Arena has significantly better vertical targeting speed than the T-90a?
What’s the trade off the with the B3 Arena when in comparison to the T-90a?
T-90A has better turret armor profile and better mobility, B3 arena has better targeting speed and a mid APS.
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Ah, I see. Shouldn’t have assumed regarding it’s mobility.
Though when it comes to armor is it all that better? Yeah the weakspots are more but hitting them always seem to be a 50/50 and you would have a better chance going for the breach.
I’m wondering if those tradeoff really make it okay for it to be at 11.0 when the regular B3 also has the same weakspots:
sure you get significantly worse side protection, slightly worse gun handling (40.0, 40.0 → 34.0, 32.0), worse mobility but that APS would be a life saver imo.
The most common agms in game are hellfires and mavericks, both of which do not loft as much making it easy to intercept. So wouldn’t that alone be a good justification to be at 11.3?
I’ll have to get my hands on it first but it’ll be the first thing that’ll replace the T-90a. The terrible gun handdling has gotten me killed more times than the weak spots on the roof or the ring of the turret. The only tangible trade off when it comes to my playstyle is mobility.
Regardless, it’ll still go in my 11.3 lineup. Russia 11.3 is extremely strong in CAS and Heli
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There’s no need to create too much drama. Everything is right before my eyes. I’m not looking just k/d your stats showing us you dont know too much. You haven’t even properly played rank 6 and above with different tanks. You’ve played 1750 games with xm1, m1 and m1a1 aim. Already you have 1992 ground realistic match. I don’t need to say much, what I’ve said already tells the story.
1046 battles XM1 and 44% :)AIM 39% hmmm, what a weird winrate of USA, that’s said enough
According to your way of thinking, my statistics should show that the uk win rate is lower than the ru. But it isn’t, isn’t that interesting? In fact, it’s the opposite.
I abuse the top turret/turret roof weakspots a lot on the T-72s/80s. Hitting the turret roof on these tanks will usually kill a crew member and damage/destroy the breach, alongside with some of theoptics/FCS stuff there.
However I might be biased as I use that weakspot often, so take it with a grain of salt.
Honestly I can’t fully argue against that without having seen the APS in action. On paper it seems really mid with that +20 degrees vertical coverage, but I’m not sure how it will do vs stuff like spikes.
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Abrams only good in mobility and penetration rate. But it’s still a big cardboard box. Only latest Abrams SepV2 received useful dynamic protection and laser detection(recently), and only 2 premium Abrams have APS 10° vertically, but staying 12.0, 5s reload only with ace.
Even though I don’t have top rank soviet, still I watch YT gameplay, and I play against it. I clearly remember when soviet holders complaint about no armor on T72B3, but survived shots same way as any Abrams. B3 Arena will come to set-up with BMPT perfectly, as second pick when BMPT team clean first wave of strong vehicles. Giving Arena 11.0 with APS and round to penetrate top Leos it’s same mistake as was BMPT on 10.3. Perhaps 11.3-11.7 would be good, playable spot with such gun power and great protection from air, even with those 15°.
People don’t read the tank technical card first. You put these two verhicles in real life combat and they said Russia bias anyway.
Mate, stock = heat = lack of kills. When did kills come into the survivability of the tank? I managed to come positive despite using heat from stock without using any ge on it. And i got about 2 kills using the heat which is the main cause of deaths as after that i didnt die unless to bmpts half the time as it was during the time they were 10.7 so u saw them every game.
Also, if u had looked a little more you would have seen ive played america, germany, britain, japan, italy, france and sweden with a mix of the others. I dont play russia because 1, the players are worse than the germans, and two the tanks are either brain dead easy or just jank to play. Plus im not so much a fan of the look of them hence why i grinded britain and italy as they have some of the best looking tanks imo.
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“Mate, stock = heat = lack of kills. When did kills come into the survivability of the tank?”
If you’re talking about winning matches easily by pressing the ‘w’ key, the 3BM42 apfsds can be unlocked for 9000 RP even without researching the repair kit. Who are you kidding? You played 20 matches to unlock something that should be unlocked in 2, and now you’re telling a story.
Also, I didn’t ask you why you didn’t play Russia, I said you hadn’t played it, and you haven’t. It’s clearly not something you’ll understand just by facing this tank, if we’re talking about you. These tanks aren’t played the same way as NATO tanks. “Exactly, we press the ‘W’ key and it goes.” You have to be a genius to play NATO tanks: Show the turret, hit, and retreat. I could just say that and leave it at that, the way you understand it. All you do is show off and have double standards.
You say that as if mobility isn’t the most important aspect to a tank in War Thunder.
‘‘Grass is always greener on the other side’’.
You’ve never played top-tier Russia, so imma hit you with another: ‘‘Grass is always greener on the other side’’.
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From what I could find he played two T-series tanks, which are Bhishma and T-80UD/BE and let me tell you something, that “ease” of use and armor soaking up shots it shouldn’t didn’t really help him perform better than in his NATO trashcans.
That guy is Forum Exaggerator #3251.
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