Same thing without this part “Auto nuke cannon with only a few rounds in auto loader before long reload” can be said about the AMX-30B2 and BRENUS and they sit at 8.7. They do get a LRF but that is about it
lol, no. 11.0 or even 11.3, no apfsds. 12.0 w/ apfsds
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Brenus is far worse… its just a 105, its not an autoloader.
Yeah but it has darts and a lrf. My point being mainly just that this could easily go up to 8.7 since there are vehicles with similar capabilities that the T-58 which are also not stabilised.
It has a mediocre dart and a LRF that only enables you to react faster at 1500m+ shots.
Yes and this is equivalent to the T-58 doom canon imho. Thus making both of these realtively equal but the BRENUS will not go down because it is french and the T-58 will not go up because it sells well.
It’s not. LRF doesn’t come into play at all even in the slightest below 1500m and the dart is mediocre. The T58 is unironically superior on most maps.
Most open maps I’d take the BRENUS. Any cc maps T-58.
It can be useful if you only see the turret of somebody peeking over a hill at like 1km.
completely fine for the BR to be honest
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Most maps… are CC maps
If you’re under 1km its trivial to manually aim
These words don’t have meanings. It’s mediocre for the BR. You can accept mediocre things.
I said it makes it easier. (if you only see the cupola of a tank at 900m the lrf is a more surefire way to hit.
Yes mediocre is fine for where it sits rn.
Look my main point of comparison was to point out that tanks which are in some ways worse than the T-58 sit higher than it. We both agree the T-58 is better in most matches and thus can easily go up but it will not due to reasons I stated before