T58 should be higher BR

Because of compression problems around this these brs and people lack the skill to understand how to disable/kill it even at 8.7 apparently

You can know how to kill it all you want, it’s still overpowered at the end of the day with all factors considered

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I know how to kill a KV-1 (even if the shots I post on the forums make you think otherwise), that doesn’t make them not obscenely stupid to shoot at. I know how to kill a Maus, that doesn’t make it not a balancing nightmare. I know how to kill a T58, that doesn’t make it not overpowered. Knowing how to kill tanks only goes so far because it is generally a 2 way interaction when you kill something. Trying to get a good shot on a T58 when you need to make sure it can’t get a shot on you is difficult all things considered. Barrel sniping is a partial solution to this but barrel sniping is also just not consistent at all, especially at angles.

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That’s because conquerer is weak and useless, if you go up a little and use olifant mk1 or better yet 9.3 then you will punk’d t58 bro

People should be capable of killing/disable the tank just like the Maus each tank still has a achilles hill the t58 being the hull and the barrel/gun breach it also lacks a stabilizer,auto range finder,high pen apds,apfds,heat rounds witch could be found in these br

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None of these downsides really matter all that much, and the tank has glitchy volumetric traps all over it both in the hull and turret, but especially in the turret that will often have the tank take zero damage even to apfsds

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They do matter saying they don’t well is dum to say tbh

Pretty sure this isn’t true I have died/been disabled multiple times to the gun breach/gun barrel being taken out just don’t aim where the armor overlaps this should be know by now

Listen to what is being said. They don’t really matter because they are so outweighed by the upsides that it does not make a difference.

I don’t care if you do or don’t think it’s true. It’s easily verified by just going in game and taking 30 seconds out of your time to test it. There are more spots where you dont pen and you dont do damage than there are where you do. Even to APFSDS. HEAT is even less reliable, same with APDS.

And I’m saying it doesn’t

Than I don’t care about your opinions either

Watch this

Very stable platform, basically is psuedo stabilized with how good the suspension and tank handles regarding this, you also have a HESH round that nukes anything anywhere in 1 shot so you dont exactly have to be accurate

Ok, and? This is just a skill gap issue if you cant estimate range, but it even does get an analog rangefinder so you’re going to be told the range in 4 seconds anyway

none of these matter because the hesh is turbo broken, you would not use any of these over the hesh even if they were good

Didn’t read anything I said did you

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Already told I don’t care about you opinions honestly won’t take you serious anymore after you said that 🤷🏽‍♂️

Choosing to respond emotionally because you didn’t read anything said and hyperfocused on one comment that was explained why I said it directly afterwards.

It not emotionally just refuse to wast my time with such stupidity tbh thought we could have a proper conversation about balancing but that just the most stupid thing to say tbh when having a discussion

He says, after putting the first insult into this conversation so far by calling me stupid, out of emotion.

Proving everytime you respond you stopped reading when you read me say that and didn’t read why I said that posted directly after me saying it

Tbh this sound like a problem for some tanks in general like m4a3e2 vs king tiger or ifv vs a tank etc or vehicles like a m901/Raketenautomatbeing hull down or some t-seris tanks like a turms-T. you know what I mean if that’s not confusing

brother I’m PLAYING the olifant, and the chieftain. The T58 is a problem. I’m not playing 7.7 rn

No smoke is a killer

Its one of my most played tanks and it gets 1 popped all the tine

Under turret flat spot - if you dont die the tank is crippled. Hull has paper armour now and has wall of ammo behind it too.

Its another boogie man

Yet both of them should be capable of disabling/killing the t58 both have heat and apfds both a have a stabilizer one has a auto range finder not to mention one is a mbt and the other is a medium tank the t58 was designed to fight Russia heavy tanks is3,is4,is6,is7 etc…

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you’re still under the impression this is a one player interaction in a multiplayer game, the t58 wouldn’t be overpowered if the person playing it had zero agency over the interaction but they do and in the interaction it has a lot of things in its favor

I wouldn’t even care about T58s if the team wasn’t made of pointless players that move on a map and stay there like a rock. If they were the last alive and all they had to do was cap a point, they wouldn’t do a thing about it.
And the sad thing is, they get mixed with a team that puts effort into the match, and they just ruin everything.
Why don’t you just use some AI that can evaluate players like this, and put them in matches with similar players instead?