It’s fine at 8.7 learn to disable/kill it like the Maus
Are you saying all Americas 8.7 should be moved to 9.0?
its not a maus tho is it? its about as well armoured where it matters but its relatively mobile and oureloads everyone thats not an autocanon, while doing more damage per shot.
you need to hope that its not looking at you hull down unless you have an extremely powerful dart for the BR (obj 120 levels of gun power) as the armour angles and overlap make it ignore even quite potent HEAT shells.
the m103 remodel has made it a little better to cripple but that turret is still impervious in practice.
yes. the only peer of 8.7 i think beats the US 8.7 tanks is the leopard a1a1, but that is a 9.3 tank thats been dragged to 8.7 by comically poor players. XM800T, T58, XM246 especially, M60a1 rise/predator too. They are all very very strong for the BR and rival the likes of the Chieftain 900/mk10 and outright beat T55s from 9.0.
XM800T is the strongest small light tank until they start getting 105mm guns with APFSDS, even then its gonna beat them out a lot of the time.
XM246 is a gepard with armour that eats everything somehow
M60a1 rise/predator has a brilliant tank as its base, but gets ERA and a very good dart on top of it all.
hesh is underperforming on literally every other vehicle in the game
No but it’s as hard to balance as the Maus. Both are well armored, both have great guns One has great survivability the other has good survivability
The t58 being easily accessible is a problem as numbers matters especially when their great tanks for their BR
And at 8.7 most tanks do have the capability to kill/disable the tank as posted above and other t58 threads the many weaknesses it has and most auto canon overloads tanks that don’t have a fast rof it’s not special to just the t58
Theirs plenty of weaknesses in the turret once more look at multiple time it been posted in t58 threads and a majority of the rounds should be capable of penning the turret just don’t shot the lower part of the Oscillating turret ring that holds the other upper part of the turret as you won’t pen that this should be know
Gasp 😱 no really it can’t be… I was mentioning a different issue with hesh shells
I can say the same for the BOl pod nerf besides that theirs not much that can be done since they both share the same hull if I’m not wrong unless it’s a artificial nerf then you can argue for realism
ok here’s a different reason why the t58 needs to move up: the american unholy trinity of the t58, xm246 and xm800 affect the matchmaker in such a way that non-american 8.x is almost always going to be against america and when it’s not, it’s a full uptier against the soviets. This is a genuinely miserable gameplay experience and if a lineup is affecting the matchmaker like this, it needs to be addressed. The vehicle is already overpowered and it has 2 other overpowered blowjob brothers at the same BR which means the worst people on earth are queueing into it and making the game worse for everyone else.
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lol their multiple line ups like these at multiple different br’s it not just USA
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and you think this is an argument… why? Gaijin being incompetent at game balancing isn’t an argument against addressing this problem.
If you’re asking for major decompression than ask for that don’t just use a single tank or single nation for nerfs
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sorry that I’m asking for nerfs to the lineup that is affecting my gameplay experience the most. It will happen again. On that note, atgm carriers need to get straight deleted from the game.
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wow look at me, complaining about the things that are making my gameplay experience worse, how foolish. meanwhile you’re actively defending an abomination of game design and saying it’s balanced because it’s easy to kill. the SAV is easy to kill and that also needs to be moved up significantly.
Because server lag compensation causes desync and what you see in your client (your pov) sometimes doesn’t align with how the server interprets whats actually happened, the server decides what happened and when it happened and forces its result/decision into all the clients.
This is why ghost shells exist, you fired it and saw it connect but the server decided it didn’t.
Also its why you can be shot when behind cover because your enemy client was still seeing you retreat/moving in the open due to the lag and the server decided that his pov was the correct one.
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What nation/line up are you using anyways?
Wait is your highest rank is rank 6 vehicles for great Britain and you’re level 65? Btw I’m not stat shaming
I wasn’t defending the game balancing at all I do think their needs to be a major decompression for all nations not just one and I never said it was easy to kill Im just saying it isn’t impossible or extremely hard to kill especially now that it’s at 8.7 it why I compared it to the Maus it being at 8.7 is like the Maus being at 7.7
Yes, this is backtracking. Cheaters often abuse this lag compensation mechanism, so they fake their ping which tricks server, to hit lag compensation records of positions they like, while perceiving presence, they can choose to travel back in time basically, not many people realize how powerful that is.
I never did win amatch where t-58 was used by the other team, and never lsot a battle with one on my own team…
I will just leave any match where a T-58 is present. on any team. End of story.
P.S. TheK/D of those tanks is 5, 7, 10… Even fro players that are not even level 100 yet…
This tank is a big pile of bull crap…
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I’ve play multiple matches where theirs been 3 t58 and we still lost the match multiple different times and you leaving isn’t helpful at all for teammates
Even stats prove their not a guarantee win being 54% and their k/s being 1.57
Maybe I’ve been playing against the cheaters :)
Cause that’s not what I’ve seen.
t-58 on one side: they win.
t-58 on both sides: win the one with more.
Same number of t-58 on both sides: win the team with more cheaters :P
So far, I was able to kill t-58 only from behind.
And it’s not easy to do that…