Well actually I learned how to take out bmpt in 10.0 so their not really a problem to me I mean yes their extremely strong tanks but theirs ways to take them out granted it far more difficult to take them head on compared to the t58 so I do my best to steer away from that since you can’t disable all it weapons systems at once like the t58 and try to go for side shots as that’s the best method
Well most 7.7 tanks have the capability to disable the barrel of the t58 and the ones with heat rounds can shoot the upper cheeks of the turret to try and kill 1-2 crew members and disable the gun breech others can shoot under the barrel but it’s not a good idea without aphe type round with enough penetration 200mm I posted pictures in another forum about this people just freak out and panic shoot or just have terrible aim literally like I’ve been saying the main weakness of the t58 is the gun barrel and the circle ring around it that’s only 50mm of protection it’s why I keep comparing it to the king tiger the upper turret cheeks are like 260 theirs also a part of the turret where half of the gun breech comes is protected by 87 mm (from side profile )angle (look at it head on) is only 135 mm their is possible ways to disable the tank more than people think
Most people think it could still preform good in 9.3 and 9.7 just like the same people who think 9.0 isn’t already well 9.0+ territory it’s practically the same br
There’s basically nothing you can do to try and kill an aware T58 player head-on.
You cannot push it because the moment it sees your tracks, it will just overpressure you – same with side-scraping it.
If he whiffs his shot then he just has another one loaded before you can push him.
The gun itself is quite stable and it has pretty decent armour and very good gun handling for such a vehicle.
They’re arguably both just as difficult to try pushing.
All tanks basically do – it’s just that you must go for its barrel whereas it can just go for the kill.
Doing that in a stabilized tank is relatively easy but it’s much more of a problem for the unstabilized.
It’s not exactly fast but 7km/h in reverse can be enough to retreat into cover or have its friendlies try and stop you from killing it, and this is assuming you can get the first shot off in the first place.
The 9.0 - 9.3 MBTs tend to have little to no armour, so only until 9.7 do thing really change.
9.3 MBTs also tend to have better gun handling, mobility, and rounds than the 9.0 counterparts.
I know you aren’t the best, but most of this comes down to you allowing them to do this. You ate in a T58, one of the absolutely easiest vehicles to play in that BR range, anybody trying what you described shouldn’t get away with it.
Also you can write a whole similar text about the BMPT, making it seem far less dangerous to face.
I mean t58 is the pay to win but usa flawored so you cant hard nerf it like the bmpt in a weak but nibble with +1 every 4 month until it reach a proper br ,9.0 ish probably
You can’t simply just aim at the tracks their is a specific spot you have to hit to over pressure as I’ve shot multiple at track and it just absorbs it and find it better just to aim at the track under the tank also I don’t know why you would wanna try to side scrap it if it has a hesh with 200 mm pen also if the t58 is stationary yeah it has good gun handling but not when it’s moving like 10 mph it starts to get pretty hard to aim
Yeah I won’t argue with that but at least the t58 is easier to disable
Yeah I ain’t no YouTuber most of the time in any tank I get surrounded by enemy tanks or my barrel gets taken out or I get CAS or get flanked or even lose some 1v1 fights
Is it easy to play the t58 yeah sure once you get know the range of all two shells and the best places to hit a tanks weak spot and I would say I do know a lot tanks weak spots since I use to take the m60a2 to top tier since you can over pressure a lot tanks especially t-seris tanks with HE but I would also say theirs other tanks that are also easy to play in or around that br
No that wasn’t my point my point is that t58 is less dangerous to face compared to something like bmpt because unlike the bmpt the t58 does have weaknesses like i keep mentioning the barrel the left upper turret cheek where you can take out the gun breech and possibly 1-2 crew members under the barrel but with high explosive like aphe or a missile and a few more areas and for the bmpt we all know it’s really difficult take out but at 10.0 most tanks should have enough pen to shoot some of it weak spot personally I like to go after them when their distracted and go for a side profile shot and shot under the era or the engine witch ngl could sometimes not work out but sometimes I do mange to kill it another would be when their angle like a tiger 1 I would shot the front sprocket and kill or disable it but it no means did I try to make it sound like the bmpt is easy to take out just that like the t58 their lower br competitors have a round to disable/kill them but for the bmpt its a lot more harder compared to t58
Honestly that’s your opinion but I find it harder to kill a tank that can spam missiles on the move while also shooting at you disabling tracks/Cannon or even act like Khrizantema-S
Personally I rather be a 7.7 and go up against a t58
lol the t58 was literally made to destroy heavy Soviet tanks plus the is4 reload is terrible for even 7.7 literally have to make every shot count even when not facing a t58
Been playing a lot of Abrams recently, bmpt is child’s play when it comes to annoyances. Those stupid helicopters sitting at helipad the entire match launching LMURs is what ticks me off.
Things can perform well, but it’s a problem when they start performing too well.
T58 currently has better stats than BMPT, so denying it being busted is worrying, even you perform in it much better than your account average so, I don’t know what to tell you.
In k/d it does, not in win rate so I wouldn’t say better also I still don’t think it preforming to well
Also if what you say is true than when it come to preforming too well the other top 10 vehicles also need nerfs then? Also what determines performing too well k/d or win rate or both
performing than my account average is not really surprising since people always whiff their shots literally yesterday one in type 16 had to shoot me 3-4 time in the side missing most of his in a type 16 imagine from the front compared to any other 8.0 to 9.0 tanks in the American tech it definitely has good survivability well I’m not to sure about the m60 I don’t really use those
Depends on the tank I guess.
Magachs, for example, can be killed relatively easy apparently.
T-55s too because of the lower sides only being ~20mm thick.
Also if you go at a fixed speed (such as 7km/h) it’s quite stable. It doesn’t have a stabilizer to accelerating or declerating while shooting isn’t a good idea.
that only applies if ur unstabilized tank with 2.6secs reload doesn’t have +300mm of armor everywhere (like the T58).
the only weakspot is the small piece of armor under the cannon between the mantlet and the “extra turret ring”, the hull is a 50:50 viable option, since u can only kill the driver and maybe ammo rack it if the T58 carries too much ammo (which btw is still a very rare thing to happen if u’re using APDS, since it has lower probs of detonating ammunitions).
the problem with the T58 is that it shouldn’t be abusing of 7.7 tanks, just like it also shouldn’t be facing T-72A in uptiers. it shouldn’t even exist (or be in WT), since u can pretty much use it at 12.7 and still get plenty of kills thx to the insanely nonsensical firepower and traverse (which is too much for a WW2 design cold-war tank).
the turret is so well armored u can pretty much hit the side at 90º flat angle and still non pen it.
if u don’t have HEAT-FS/APDS (or a strong APDS at least) u can’t pen the hull.
most 8.3/8.7 tanks are extremely bad armored compared to this american monster on steroids.