Yeah this thread was kind of a mistake, I guess just a big case of skill issue. Its really just that I was playing my 7.7 lineup and got pissed about how I was doing in the T32e1.
Thats pretty much what im saying
Oh for the love of god can people please stop quantifying tanks by “just go hull down lmao” every single tank in the game gets better when it’s hull is not exposed this is obvious and not a boon, to that same end, the T32 can easily be penned in it’s turret ring by forcing the shot trap under the mantlet from the front, which causes the round to bounce down into the hull, or you can just toss a HE round into the driver or machine gunner hatch and call it a day. You can just flat out toss HE across most of the mantlet edge as the roof armor of that compartment is not enough to stop HE with a usable volume.
To that same end, the KT’s turret face is not a “easy” weak point, its flat out the only weakpoint frontally to the KT once gaijin volumetriced the MG port.
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Except for the part where the T32 has more than 100mm more armor on the turret, making it completely protected against AP or APHE rounds.
These discussions are kinda pointless since BRs are based on player performance and so far neither T32 had any issues that made them less competetive at their current BRs compared to other vehicles.
The T32 has very good armor and quite good mobility, for a heavy tank. It lacks in armor penetration and reload but has good traverse speed and gun depression.
literally not what I said, reread if you have problems understanding
no, if the turret is much easier to pen then hull then no
lol yeah try to trapshot moving, shaking its barrel T32. I would like to see that on the video if you say it is so easy.
it is easy, huge, on top of a tank, always visible, penned by almost any cannon and 80% of the times leads to one shot kill. 20% is turret being unusable for another minute.
your KD on T32 is even worse than op’s, not much of a suprise really.
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Sure my guy, you totally did not bring up hull down gameplay just because it exists.
- reduces the volume of the vehicle that can be hit
“its not a boon”
There is no reason to go hull down in something like say the T28 or T29 by your measure as it’s roof is it’s only weakpoint to non-HEAT rounds, yet, doing so protects certain things that you might know of and prevents a IED moment.
Skill issue
Tell me, where else can you front pen a KT with M82, I’d love to know.
This is a rhetorical question if you were wondering.
Yawn stat shaming again, here I thought you had an argument.
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well, you still dont understand what I was saying
if your tank has well armored hull and weaker turret it makes no difference, people will always shoot your turret. T29 has weaker hull than turret and T28 has no turret at all so that argument is invalid.
surely :) cope much?
almost is a foreign word I know, and that is a shell not cannon lol
*T28
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*T29
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lol rushed edit:)
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This is more of an issue of BR compression than anything else. The T32 when compared to other heavy tanks at it’s BR is similar however any up tiers makes the only advantage you have which is armor, useless.
If we reduce the T32 in BR, maybe tanks at 7.3 won’t have an issue facing it. But tanks from the 6.3 to 7.0 will struggle to face it.
@AlvisWisla The T-55AM-1 can pen the T32E1 frontally (hull and manlet) and this is just with a APFSDS round. Armor becomes even more useless when you introduce heat warheads. I have no idea where you got these screenshots and how you got them but these are just false. This is outrageously false leading me to believe that this was done on purpose.
I encourage all of you to fact check people (including me) regardless of how many vehicles they have. The amount of vehicles you have doesn’t equate to experience and knowledge.
@NOM1337AD I kinda agree with your up tier statement. However I would argue that 7.7 heavy tanks in general struggle the most mainly because of their mobility and reload. 7.0-7.7 light/medium tanks won’t struggle as much because they have decent reload and mobility. It’s just an issue of BR compression.
I wouldnt lol, I agree it is compression issue and not the issue with T32E1
Keep deflecting, its a good look.
How cute that you had to have a third party check you on the tanks I mentioned when trying to argue about them.
To that same end, the T29’s turret and hull are equal bar the MG port, with the primary weak point of the tank being the MG port and the turret roof, meanwhile your statement on the T28 further proves my point.
I am happy you freely admit that.
Nice, so you also concur that the only penetrable point of the King Tiger by M82 is it’s turret face when the tank is face on, that and last I checked, the cannon is not what does the penetration in War Thunder.
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well, more copium and retoric battles. You are free to feel opressed tho :)
actually @TBomb69 sorry for being too harsch before, the topic is needed since many people are discouraged by their first impression and formulate very poor opinions about this very neat tanks. I jumped into T32 for a few battles and had very good run, one in particular I faced 4 KTs and shrugged all their shells, getting 3 kills and a assist. Gotta play it more now that vulcan is 7.3 too.
The American T heavies are at their correct BR in my opinion. They all have very decent turrets, most have very decent hull.
They all only comprise of 1 or 2 weak spots on the hull/turret to almost all calibers at their BR. They lack in firepower and reload by a relatively small margin in my opinion, but do get great mobility and gun handling to compensate.
The issue lies in the 7.7-8.7 compression and the Americans are absolutely not the only one having issues with it. I don’t like either that my Lorraine 40t gets absolutely obliterated by VIDARS from 1.5km or by stabilized, LRF, APFSDS t55am doomslayers. But I won’t advocated for the Lorraine to be down tiered to 7.3. Because it would be an absolute menace in down tiers at 6.7 and 6.3. The same applies for the t32s that are now 7.7.
The comparaison between the t32 and tiger 2 is absolute cope. The tiger 2 has great frontal hull armor, and a decent gun. That’s it. Mobility, reload, gun handling, overall armor… it gets absolutely destroyed in all over metrics by the t32s.
Just by considering that to kill someone, a tiger 2 HAS to show its 2 massive turret cheeks that can be penned by absolutely every caliber above 6.7, usually ending in one shots or at worst catastrophic turret damages, while the t32 can be much more agressive even at 7.7 (aside from when facing HEAT) would be enough to close the argument. It’s not only about hull down. A large number of t32 that I have been facing recently have been placing bushes (or even just free cosmetics, like the anime girl pillows) on their MG port making them extremely hard to effectively hit.
And event without those camouflages, the hull weakspot can be easily protected by a simple wiggle. Which I would have been expecting from the god @Lolman345 since you can even think of bullet trapping the turret ring, which is a much more advanced tactic.
Anyway, without being harsh, this thread is merely a cope blog. The tanks are fine at 7.7. The issue lies with the current BR compression from 7.7-8.7 in general, and things won’t be fixed by moving the compression down a br
I take it then you concede in this matter since you seem to have nothing more productive to say.
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Arguments were already made by me and others you just fail to acknowledge them resorting to retoric to hide your skill issue :)
I’d rather not compress the ww2 BRs even more and instead I’d rather they heavily buff the rate of fire on these and decompress that area of the game
Those are very, very specific case scenario, T-10M and IS-7 are in a uptier are to 8.7, you barely seen then one because there are more reliable vehicles and two, one it’s too expensive.
Pretending the T32E1 is somehow a Tiger 2 equivalent is peak american whinism
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