I think you should have your posting privileges taken away given history of your posts.
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I don’t think this will really do anything for Russian tanks in game. What Russia really lacks to be “competitive” is mobility, which is where the Armor compensates. The JM33 is used on many Japanese tanks (400ish pen I think) and they still hold the number one spot for highest win rate in game. I wouldn’t mind them adding the round as long as they are added to the variants of other nations that hold Russian tanks as well. Either way, wouldn’t do anything to help Russia at top tier but nice to have.
Yearly equivalents? I doubt that. Soviets get better means to penetrate non-existent nato armor? Nato gains the same capability with anti-ERA tips and so on. Equivalent for 3BM44M would be DM83 btw.
Question, is there even a thing 3BM60 cant pen outside of turret cheeks and Abrams/any MEXAS UFPs?
3BM44M is worse than 3bm60 though? How is it in any way a DM83 equivalent which is only for 130mm guns
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No?
NATO tanks have yet to have the most armored status removed from them.
Not even T-90M is as good as Strv 122, and prior to T-90M, T-80U was the previous most armored Soviet tank until the release of T-90M. And T-90M’s closest equivalent armor is 2A7V.
Also 3BM44M’s equivalent is DM43 at best. Not sure why you’re claiming Germany can’t make ammunition and that DM83 is as bad as if not worse than DM43.
As far as I remember no, bar Oplot UFP being iffy.
Seems to me T-90M doesnt need better shell then. Not going against you, just wanted to confirm.
Disaggreed and then pulled up a report on how its not called dm83, dm83 is the name for 130mm darts, most recently kf51, or challenger 3 130 TD
Russian tanks are mid because their armor doesn’t make up for their lack of mobility at all lmao.
However with how stupidly OP Russian CAS is it’s more than fine for their top tier MBTs to be mid to compensate.
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The Name KE2020NEO is the devolpment name, DM83 is what it is called in the german army.
Also German ammunitions can have the same name wich is then differentiated by caliber.
For example
Lepard 1A5 105mm DM23
and
Leopard 2A4 120mm DM23
I think it will be worse than 3bm60 after gaijin penetration convertation from realism to gaijinism
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Weird of you to call realism “Gaijinism”.
Of course 3BM44M would be worse than 3BM60, that’s realistic. 3BM60 already pens more in-game.
And Gaijin uses a known good formula for all APFSDS in War Thunder, which is why APFSDS is pretty much identical to IRL tests when available.
Personally I don’t even think they’re mid but down in the worst. No reverse speed, capped 6 sec reload, poor tank design makes it an easy one shot. I play them so cautiously cause I’ll get popped like a soda can. As far as CAS goes it is “OP” in all nations if I see a Grippen or F15E I always know we’re going to get rocked if they have a good pilot.
I can’t justify Russian MBTs being top tier without their ERA. Even if the T-14 Armata was in game I feel it’ll be just another AGS like tank.
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They are using most modern shell on their top tier Mbts.
The only thing France can get is the SHARD which is not in service yet.
Sweden already using their most modern round for their Strv-122 unless they suddenly decided to buy M338 from Israel or DM53 from Germany.
They are also using one of the most modern rounds on their inventory.
Only US and Germany using much older munitions compare to rest of them.
Still they don’t need any buffs.
You do realize Lekalo is literally worse than Svinet-2 right?
No, 3BM60 is using 1970s technology. Just because it was produced later doesn’t make the technology newer.
M829A2 easily is more modern than 3BM60 because it uses newer material practices.
If you use that logic every round development history based on 1960’s 1970’s Alwis.
Also even if we take your logic into account it will not change the outcome, Svinet-2 is the most modern round in Russian Armed Forces inventory and Russia hasn’t developed any more modern round for their 125mm cannons apart from some prototype shells that has little to no information.
Once larger maps becomes more common I can see these changes being implemented however with CQC maps still being dominant, the T-90M still does quite fine and arguably better than the Seps.