T-80 UD has has no place in high tiers

Before all the kids pull up stats, i did it for you, it has 43% win rate, the lowest win rate from any MBT at 10.3, and it doesn’t excel in any other stats (it is hilariously bad). Your personal experience really doesn’t matter here, stats are facts.

it didn’t need a nerf.

It has no thermals. The rest really doesn’t matter if you can’t see the enemy. Thermals gives an unfair advantage with the huge maps and lots of forestry that you constantly see in high tiers, the UD is useless. It was hard to play it at 10.3, at 10.7 gayjin should offer a refund.

This is such a lazy way of developers (and gayjin devs takes the cake here) to balance tanks.

You misunderstand the point, it’s not that the T-80UD is getting uptiered due to overperforming, it’s because it was sealclubbing 9.3 too much, eventually decompression will happen, and it’ll be effective again.

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43% win rate, 1 k/d what seal clubbing are you talking about?? It has bad global stats, where is outperforming? if anything, is very under performing.

win rate has nothing to do with the fact I can’t do anything about it in an olifant or stingray. this is like how they had to balance the maus, can’t put it too low or nothing can kill it even if it’s WR is bad

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It got a 6s reload and moved up to 10.7. 9.3s vs T-80UD is a rather unfair matchup, and T-80UD will work fine at 10.7.

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T-80UD, thanks to its armor, was borderline 10.3/10.7 case; with 6 sec reload theres really no argument for it to stay 10.3.

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t80ud was blatantly better than pretty much every other 10.3 mbt, and is still solid at 10.7. Compare it to a t72av turms-t: gets really good armour unlike the turms-t which has the same armour against darts as the t72a, has much better mobility (21.7 hp/t vs 18), better reload (6sec vs 7sec), better gun handling (24*/s vs 20*/s horizontal and 4.4*/s vs 3.5*/sec vertical), better era. Only downside is that it doesn’t get thermals.

Or another more direct comparison: t80ud vs t64b - was the same br, 21.7 hp/t vs 16.99 hp/t, better gun handling (4.4*/sec vertical vs 3.5*/sec vertical), slightly better composites, better era.

Is the t80ud a somewhat hard tank to play? Yes, it doesn’t have good gun handling for the br, but that doesn’t mean the tank is bad.

And stats don’t tell everything, you can look at some hilariously bad mbt’s that have 60%+ winrate solely because of the players who play the tank.

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it has everything to do. It means most players can handle it in a stingray or olifant or whatever, it’s just that you can’t. Maus has 1.8 K/D. How about is7, obj 279, e-100 which are stupidly op. When they will get a nerf?

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Gaijin did this so t72av becomes somewhat worth buying compared to ud ig. No sane person would pick turms over ud.

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I dare you. I have a positive ground-to-ground k/d in the stormer hvm.

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it has the worst stats at 10.3, you based your arguments on what? personal experience? Armor doesn’t matter if the enemy can see you first.

again, thermals gives a huge advantage

T-80 had just armor and decent dart. Slow reload rate compared to it’s US/UK/JAP counter parts. 6 seconds is ‘normal’ for that tier, bad gun depression, elevation, reverse speed, you name it

personal stats are irrelevant when balancing tanks

dude win rate dont and will never matter

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I sit at 60% winrate and KD of 2.4 across 204 games.

It will be perfectly fine at 10.7.

based on what you balance a tank? it has bad stats overall

204 games is irrelevant, given a sample of 250k+ games. You realize in most games it under performs

That’s why I prefer the T-72AV…

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Bro pulled out the worst examples possible lmao. Maus has a good k/d because it’s 7.7 and gets downtiered to 6.7, where players are hella confused when they meet it. e100 is closer to being overpowered since it’s a better maus but even then it’s the same thing as the maus. Is-7 and obj279 suffer from being heavy tanks - really good in a downtier, awful in an uptier, since in an uptier they can be penned by literally everything

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