T-72M4CZ: Dynamic Firepower

Damn, didn’t realise they were a partner on the project. I’m sure if Poland can get the Moderna for being contracted for the engine then France can get the T-72-120 for being contracted for the autoloader, right?

Tbf I don’t want any of these being in France. It a damn shame France never made that T-72 with Leclerc turret. It would have been fire.

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Yeah, neither do I really.

Good thermals? Are you tripping? The Sosna-U is a really good FCS…

Abrams, Typ90, Typ10, K2, Chally3TD, Ariete and many many more to German Tech Tree. They all use German parts of Renk, Rheinmetall, MTU, Kidde-Deugra etc… No logic in that posting.

To russia ? Never. I say it as a person who served on this tank and there is not any reason.
It should be to israel . There was lot of co-op in development.

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+1 to a Czech tree

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We want this tank passed to the devs!!

Hot take but I would like to see this as a Squadron vehicle for Germany to complement the Leo 2A4 at 10.7 (Same way the Bhishma is in the UK tech tree)

Why? It literally has nothing German?

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Only option is some sort of Czechoslovak tech tree

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Yeah that’s why it’s a hot take, the Bhishma has nothing British too and well it’s in the British tree. Of course the best place for it would be an independent Czech tree but if that isn’t the case then I think it would be nice to have in the German tree

I have some news for you buddy

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Bhishma is in British tech tree because India was under the British Empire, plus used a ton of British vehicles
This does not make any sense besides maybe Leopard 2A4s, Panzer IVs and Panthers, Czechoslovakia did not use much speaking of ground vehicles.

I like the tank, i do not like the idea of a tank that has one of it’s most well known pictures be one where it proudly flies a NATO flag to be in the Soviet tech tree though, the closest i think it could go is with the Germans but otherwise i suppose i’d have to pass on it.

Totally great idea, surely wonder what happened in 1938
There is always a third way
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I find that putting it under the banner of a NATO ally is the best bet.
If Germany won’t do, Italy is the next best option in my opinion since it is both a NATO ally and was involved in the modernization of the tank, but i did see someone mention Israel further up the thread because they too played a part in modernizing the tank.
I very much oppose the creation of a new tech tree for this, i do not see how it is a good idea to add more half tech trees.

No, it is very stupid idea.
You’re suggesting rather than add Czechoslovakia under USSR (Like adding Palestine to Israel as subtree) to rather add Czechoslovakia under Germany (like adding Lebanon under Israel as subtree), it is stupid idea and would cause intense backlash.
Czechoslovakia has enough vehicles to be it’s independent tech tree, only for ground they have over 530 vehicles avaliable just for ground, most of which is not copy paste.
The biggest tech trees in War Thunder right now is USA, which currently has around 440 vehicles of all classes

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I firmly oppose the creation of another tech tree for what in the end is “just because” or “i feel like my country is significant enough”.
A lot of vehicles that are in those new tech tree proposals are either a lot of minor variations of the same tank, are just soviet/american/french/british vehicles, sometimes are as far as i know completely ficticious(Tiger with Skoda A18 gun) or vehicles that in my humble opinion have no place in the game(for example the OT-64A in it’s APC configuration).
On top of that, getting those new vehicles would be kind of a chore because you have to start a whole new tech tree and can’t use the premiums you might already have to help you progress.

If Germany is a no go according to you i think Italy makes a fine alternative, it is a NATO ally and was involved with the modernization of the tank and i’d support the addition of this tank under the Italian banner.

So your saying that you don’t see Czechoslovakia as “significant” enough?

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