T-72AV Turms Should be 10.0 Tank

T-80UD should definitely be 10.7. thermals or not.

100%. After spectating @Beeschurger the other day get a nuke in the T-80UD, after taking round after round. That thing has no buissness being 10.3 I almsot wonder if it should be 11.0

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Lol I challenge you with leopard 2a4 pzt, ıf you are thinking they are same.

I kiss you to.

You think the 2S38 should be 10.0. Im not really sure you understand what balance is

You said for turms 10.7 ıf you realy beliving make me 1 vs 1 againts leopard 2a4

Usual Morvran shenanigans.

The 2A4 is a good counterpart to the TURMS
Similar Armor profiles
Similar ammuniton
Both can reliably pen each other
Both have strengths and weaknesses in respective areas

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Turns OP? I bet you don’t even have it; it used to be good, but now it’s mediocre, if not below expectations. You probably don’t know anything about it.

Overall Leopard win t72 turms.

please read the sentence well, i said its kit is OP if it goes down to 10.0 because of what it faces

Usually Motorola Cope

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In a long range engagement, sure. In a CQC fight where you both have less than a second to aim, the TURMS has a higher chance of penetrating the turret of a 2A4 than the 2A4 has against the TURMS

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TURMS has a better shell and way better survivability, at the cost of slower reload and no reverse gear.

But soviet ERA is really stupidly overtuned and needs nerfing across the board

But fighting a T-72 TURMs in a 9.3 is the most stupid thing in the world. In fact, most 9.0-10.0 tanks struggle with dealing with them

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I agree, But the 2A4 wins in almost every aspect; I’d say it loses a little in firepower and armor, but I believe it’s much more competitive in this BR

Finally current t72 turms player here, thanks for saying only truth. T72 turms atleast reverse speed be 20 kmh I say okay10.3 fine but this tank man everything just slow. And Im saying peoples ıf you are thinking T-72AV Turms good ı can fight you 1 vs 1 leo 2a4.

Kontact 5 doesn’t do anything against APFSDS.

Anyways, the Turms is a side grade to the ZTZ96A, and it certainly isn’t 10.7 or 10.0 worthy. We just need more decompression.

Hu?

It blocks L27A1 100% of the time. let alone say L23A1.

What do you mean it doesnt do anything vs APFSDS

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Like I said each has their own advantages. I’ve stated this with the Abrams before on different threads, but Russian MBTs tend to have more “active” advantages, like ERA, while Western MBTs tend to have more passive advantages, like gun handling.

Since I archived the replay, I should eventually clip that last part because that was complete circus

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