where else do you shoot a obj 279 or a chieftain that is hull down?, hull on the obj and the turret on the chieftain, besides, clearly shows that these rounds doesnt pen just “2mm more”…
Again angle penetration matters a lot, and quite often is far more important than flat penetration, fx 3bm22 is much better than the 3bm15 even if it pens 15mm less and it is way worse than the 3m42 even if the latter just pen 17mm more, the m1000a1 is way better than the 3bm3 even if it pens 7mm less, the 120mm l15a3 is far better than the 105 dm 13 even if it pens 50mm less, fuck even the m728 is arguably better while having 80mm less of penetration.
If you cant see this i would recomend you to play apcr, then come again to claim that angle penetration “is not going to help you”, btw just as a reminder, the most armored tanks around this br uses have sloped armor specially the soviet tanks.
then it doesnt pen just 2mm more as you claim, one round can penetrate it easily where it does not need to resource to destroing the a barrel or not shooting while other have to, yet youre here claiming that there is no difference…
are you blind? in any of this scenarios you dont assume a risk by shooting a m111, it completely outmatches the armor no player is not going to shoot at them.
This wouldn’t be fair to T-54s that are already at 8.0.
Also APDS can shatter but APFSDS are harder to shatter thus APFSDS are more reliable
There are reason why i don’t load 3BM-8 once i have 3BM25.
If you need more pen there are HEAT-FS.
yes, because if you see a t72 you would never try to shoot at the sides at high angles… which is pretty much the most common way to kill them, it seems you dont really know how to effectively use apdsfs .
The t-55a is fine where it is at APCBC with HE filler is diabolical with a full gun stabilizer. That should honestly be your main shell with the APFSDS as back up in case of something heavier. Most tanks 7.3 to 9.3 can be easily penned by that APCBC which results in consistent one shots or heavy crits. I mean think of it this way. Imagine being in an M47 in full up teirs against that tank, in regular engagements you’re at a pretty big disadvantage against a fully stabilize tank with a 100mm gun vs your instablized 90mm.
What if T-54s deserved to go to 7.7 ?
Full stabilization is a game changer on it’s own, now add slightly better gun handling + dart and I think that “upgrade” is worth more than just a single BR step.
T-54s are very sad vehicles, one of few mediums that suffer from “higher tier heavies syndrome” in which they trade most (if not all) things for armor, just to have it negated by vast majority of things at it’s BR.
They dont. T-54s are more than capable enough to deal with vehicles around its own BR. Just cause you can’t appreciate the great gun doesn’t mean its bad
T-54s armor only work against auto cannons and APHEs found in downtiers. Outside of that they have same effective armor as other tanks at 8.0 but lose on gun handling, gun depression, reload speed, mobility, etc.
Yeah, T-54s have APHE and those will make you hate your life if you go against anything decently armored, so APDS at that tier is much more versatile and can pretty much OHK anything it comes against.
Just going to comment;
T-55A and T-62 still have the aimed rate of fire so it isn’t really accurate. 7 RPM includes the gun recoiling, ejecting the shell, and time to aim the gun.
Just for context in a T-34 85 it can, for about 15 rounds;
Load at ~4.6-5s
Shoot at 1 target ~6.5s
But this is actually true for most lower tier tanks. The rate of fire is utterly divorced from reality, and this hurts armored tanks the most.
But then T-54s should go to 7.7, and the Chinese T-59s too. Type 69IIa absolutely deserve to be moved down cause that thing sucks, it doesn’t even have apfsds like the T-55a
T-55A could be 8.0 with the APFSDS removed and the reload nerfed to the values stated in the T-55 manual sure. Otherwise T-55A is one of the strongest vehicles at 8.3 as it is.
