Also, where do T-64B applies for this discussion?
I’m not trying to be mean or argue with no one about this, but T-64B is so far so much advanced than T-55M, AMD-1 or AM-1 and very clearly T-64A.
T-64B uses the standard 125mm caliber and even if it got 3BM25, the damage and performance would something very different.
I’m really lost on this topic by the 16th reply.
It’s russian so some terminally ill butthurt retard has to be seething about everything russian related. Media told him to or something. It’s inorganic at this point and tiresome
Chieftain, M60, Strf 103.
Conqueror at 7.7.
And at 9.3 some tanks more protected than 9.0 Object 279 is vs 8.0 MBTs.
T-72M1 in 3 tech trees, Magach 7C, Merkava Mk2B [Can’t pen beyond engine],
I don’t need to mention the more than half-dozen 10.0s that 3BM25 flat out cannot have a chance of fragging from the front that DM23 has a chance of dealing with.
And note that there’s no limit to how many 9.3s can be in a match against T-55AM-1.
A similar vehicle that is better IMO is the ztz88, and it is just 9.0
It fires a DM23 equivalent round as well.
The T-55M is actually really good, as it has a much, much better round. The Soviet T-55s use steel rod darts that shatter all the time and deal pretty poor damage, but the tungsten dart on the T-55M is great, it deals amazing damage and has good pen even at angles. Between the two I’d prefer the T-55M for uptiers and the T-55AM only for full downtiers
Thats the b, the a fires a better round
Only vehicle within the AM’s BR range that can effectively resist the round frontally.
The only thing being compared is what 3BM25 could pen within the AM’s max BR range, not compared capabilities of vehicles and such.
“I did not read anything posted in this thread, but I’m going to call the other party a retard because Russian tank is mentioned.”
That’s a lie.
You even had the time to read the post, so I know your post is a lie.
They’re the same rounds as M111/DM23 afaik, the 88A has slightly higher pen/MV due to having a longer barrel than most standard 105 L7s.
T-72M1, T-72A, T-64A, XM-1 (chrysler), Merkava Mk.1, STRV-103A, STRV-103C have good coverage vs BM25 as well, and the Chieftain mk.9 and MBT/KPZ-70 are protected across their turret face but not their hulls.
You’re part of that group, no need to get defensive you aren’t alone in this whole forum either
115mm doesn’t mean much when the round it uses is only slightly better. No access to ATGMs. Turret armour is slightly better, like you say, but no chemical protection, and .5 second slower reload time.
T-62 is decent but there’s a good reason why relatively nobody plays it. There are definitely better options.
The Object 122 is basically a T-62 with a 120mm (with pretty much the same rounds), a 1.2s longer reload time, but gets access to 4 ATGMs, which can be independently fired from the gun. I would personally take the Object 122 over the T-62 any day.
Either way, the T-55AM1 and T-55M should stay at 8.7.
The MBT-70s retains a similar amount of penetratable volume as the M60s.
In the case of the chieftains, do you happen to mean the 3, 5 and mk 10, there is no mark 9 in game.
They are all rather similar with the 10’s applique correcting turret spots present on the 3 and 5.
The Markava Mk.1 is quite penetratable across a majority of it’s volume.
The 103C and A are still penetratable across a large chunk of their volume.
In the case of the T-72s I have agreed with that above, I seldom see them in game thus forgot they exist. They share the same amount of protection as the 64B and A against 25.
The XM-1C is frankly the easiest of the bunch overall to pen, its almost the entire volume of the tank bar a few strips.
Why armor protection analysis?
This tool only applies for perfect conditions, shooter and target speed, connection, exact distance, so I question, is this accurate for this discussion?
The protection map isn’t very informative or accurate. As an example, the green areas on the Merkava hull just knock out the engine and don’t kill any crew, and on the STRVs the green areas just bounce the round.
Both cases are successful penetrations in the case of test drive, the protection map only calculates perforation in green and successful damage against something inside, that is all that matters in this situation, not the volume of damage being caused.
Good luck fighting tanks with ERA
Luckily tanks with ERA at this BR have APHE weakspots (like the RISE (P), giant cupola to 1-shot), or have areas where ERA isn’t covered.
