Better to make it worse than to ruin 8.7. How the hell is a sabre supposed to fight a T-2? It’s basically a Starfighter that turns well with better missiles. It even outturns the Draken at mach 1 or higher while having better missiles. It should be 10.0, it’s BARELY worse than the F-1.
Alternatively, an F-5E with slightly worse turning and worse CMs 1.3 lower.
As always, the compression problem is killing the game.
How the hell is an attacker supposed to fight a Sabre?
What about Meteor, Vampire against Demon?
(this is a joke about the FUBAR status of current compression. no offence. I swear.)
IMO, on Gaijin’s hand, this bullshit BR system makes everything worse.
J35D/XS have the same missile but with more numbers.
You meant J35A. right…?
I don’t think two extra missiles with RWR are on the ‘BARELY’ level.
We know T-2 is some kind of problematic plane, but we can’t send it to 10.0 unless
decompression comes up and sends J35D, F-1 and F-104J up.
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RWR doesn’t matter much this low. T-2 could easily go to 10.3 as is.
I don’t understand why supersonic jet with
- no RWR/CM at all
- Carry 2 decent missiles, but counterparts on higher has better numbers
need to go all the way high up to 10.3 alone and compete with J35XS or F8U-2
J35XS can access 12 CM and 6x AIM-9J
while F8U-2 can access 60CM and 4x AIM-9D which has a better range but uncomfortable seeker mode.
While T-2 can access no CM and 2x AIM-9P(9J)
Even If T-2 goes 10.0, not 10.3.
I am sure that Mirage IIIC or Mirage 5F will act way better than T-2.
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Same BR with MiG-21MF/SMT?
Are you sure?
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Those little sh-ts should be 11.0 anyways.
Its a supersonic with very good turning, undodgable missiles, and Zunis (can flare off most missiles if you get AB).
It would be fine at 10.3, and even if it wouldn’t, it’s better that it suck than be OP.
Nah, I’d rather go with Mirage 5BA or Shahak if you put T-2 on ridiculously high on 10.3
(Of course, Mirage 5BA is 10.3BR and armed with Two AIM-9P same as T-2 does, but with RWR and Countermeasure pods.)
There are plenty of jets on 10.0-10.3 which acts better than T-2 now.
It’s better it be at 10.3 than 9.7
Because you don’t want to get your engine kicked by AIM-9P from T-2 while playing your F-100D?
I told you before, that T-2 can’t go any higher because there are almost all of the jets in current 10.0-10.3 act better than T-2.
Just like the Bison problem.
They are very decent and bit problematic jet in current position.
But just can’t send it higher.
I can’t wait for the day when you claim
AV-8A/C goes 9.7->9.3 while AV-8S and Harrier GR.3 goes 9.7->10.0. mate.
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Actually it can go higher. Pinning T-2 against F-86s is absolutetly insane.
You’re the only person I’ve met who’s delusional enough to suggest that. Even Alvis Wisla isn’t that delusional.
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it is not only T-2’s problem.
it’s Gaijin’s problem which keeping compression for selling more rank 7-8 premium jets.
For letting regular trees be less playable or even unplayable.
Pinning F-86 against an Attacker or Vampire is also insane.
or Facing F-104A while flying with Swift can be also ablolutely insane too.
Every goddamn jets since 7.0BR are just full of clusterfuck thanks to compression which Gaijin keeps for YEARS.
it is not just T-2 problem. things are more complicated than just a T-2 problem.
Because your claim sounds like that. So I wrote the most delusional idea which could come out of my brain this time.
You are ignoring every other counterpart on 10.0-10.3 which T-2 will be compared and will act better than T-2
(Better missiles, RWR, Countermeasures, same missiles but more, numbers and vice versa)
but want to T-2 go all the way high to 10.3?
really?
IMO, it seems you want to make every American jets underrated while non-american jets get overrated.
This time, YES OFFENCE. pal.
feel free to flag to FM this time.
10.7 at maximum.
10.3 is undertiered but, quite ridiculous that MF/SMT has higher BR than F-4EJ and F-4F.
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Undertiered J-7D[10.7, should be 11.0] sent MiG-21SMT/MF into undertiered level I think :/
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You comparing subsonic dogfighter v.s subsonic dogfighter and subsonic dogfighter v.s supersonic with undodgeable missiles.
Yes it’s not just a T-2 problem, but the T-2 is one of the biggest problems, and so it should be addressed quickly.
11.0 with the F-5E would be perfect for the Mig-21 MF/SMT
Yup. level of unfairness is different, Still it is an unfair fight.
Still, Vampire or Attacker can’t stand a chance against mighty Sabre which is undertiered badly.
unless Sabre plays dumb in the same level of P-51H which enters constant turn-fight against A6M5 ko and got shot down.
Agrees that T-2 is one of the problems. it is above average jet on 9.7.
But we also need to move the rest of the jets which are sitting 10.0-14.0 higher than now to let it happen.
In current status, sending T-2 directly to 10.3 while not touching any of counterparts in near BR radius will end with nothing but silly nerf.
If we keep F-1 on 10.0, and F-104J on 10.3, then why do we need to play a new T-2 on 10.3?
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And thus it’s a lesser priority issue. The first F-86 and Mig-15 moving to 8.0 was dumb, but it’s not a priority issue.
It will solve the problem of T-2 being OP though.
it will not just end T-2 being OP
(I think T-2 is underrated but not at an undertiered level.)
it will make T-2 unplayable too.
F-1[10.0] can access two extra AIM-9P, RWR, and CCIP for bombs (not important for ARB, still will be useful if someone wants to bomb the base on F-1 while arming with 12x 500lb)
if T-2 goes directly into 10.3
then the player will lose RWR, 2 AIM-9P and CCIP for +0.3 Extra BR.
Direct downgrade for higher BR.
Sounds ridiculous, isn’t it?
That is why our talking goes Merry-go-round with decompression topic. :/
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A question for you, do you think the Jaguar GR1 is OP too?
It’s largely very similar to the T-2, trading some speed for better turn performance.
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Then they can just not play it. T-2 will still be a good vehicle at 10.3, it just won’t be the best.
I honestly cannot recall ever encountering it so I can’t say.