Swiss hornets loadouts

Its very curious to me that this premium arrives with a new tree and all the items requested for another premium that is nearly identical in every way but not popular anymore.

Its almost like suggestions are being withheld arbitrarily to drive sales.

That’s a lot on the Arcady side.

So ever plane that could fire the AIM 9 M is considdered for the AIM 9 X (bc it has literally a compatibility mode, emulating being an AIM 9 M for the plane)?
And that uses the same plug (32 pin apparently) then AIM 9 L

So considdering the AIM 9 X for the F14 A etc?
This is highly bs.
We need higher standards for considdering.
Like the missile being tested on the plane.

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I think that actually goes all the way down to the aim9p, so f104 with aim9x’s are on the table.

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Here my report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nvKnRrFumOvr

Hopefully it doesn’t get closed because of not enough info: It’s weekend, will be a while to get my sources mobilized… ;-)

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@Schindibee @Smin1080p_WT

Given the statements made prior, would ya’ll prefer me to create a new thread and vote about having both premium hornets get merged so both parties get everything available, or would ya’ll be fine with that discussion occurring here?

Operating off of this quote

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Your report was unfortunately a mash of several things, asking for some to be removed and some added. It should be one issue per report. The response was based on the removal you suggested.

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Not at all.

Its however very clear the F/A-18C can fire AIM-9M and is in keeping with the current top tier aircraft we have in game.

I’m a bit surprised that IRIS-T and AIM-9X were only added on ground units this time, whereas they originally were aircraft ordonnance and would be viable for e.g. late Hornets, Typhoons…

Is that something still to come, or at a later stage? Do you have anything you can already share on this?

IRIS-T and AIM-9X are very much above and beyond what we currently have in terms of IR missiles for air. So they shouldn’t be expected super soon for aviation.

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Same thing happened already with the tc1’s on the antelope. Though those aren’t actually great.

Premium F/A-18C unnecessary asymetry - Dev Server “Leviathans” / General Discussion - Dev Server - War Thunder — official forum

Will toss this up here solely for the sake of the poll so folks can vote on it.

Another loadout diference is the low-drag-pylon that was specially developped for swiss air force, allowing to mount AIM-9P and AIM-120B on any station, including wingtip-

Given what @Smin1080p_WT said, i will file a bug report for each individual dev error.

  • For the 120B i have documentation of the procurement BR92 and BR2011
  • For the low-drag-pylons I have photos that confirm it. I won‘t get ghe blueprints from R**G
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[DEV] LL Lwf AIM-120B missing on Swiss Early Hornet // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] “Low drag pylon” missing for Swiss Hornet early // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] Swiss F-5E missing Flz Lwf LL 63/91 (AIM-9P-5) Sidewinder // Gaijin.net // Issues

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As a reminded - Only one BUG per Ticket otherwise GJ closes it.
@Schindibee I’ll help you on the Cyrano. There is plenty of documentation. Is no TARAN-18 in game yet. I doubt that they will implement it if its not yet in.

This is honestly a horrible way to go forward with the game…

Not only are you copy and pasting the most popular vehicles to every techtree, now they will also have identical loadouts, just because the same vehicle in some other military could mount those weapons.

This will also be directly against the way you have been accepting weapon suggestions to vehicles in the past.

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If this is Gaijin’s new guideline, that’s acceptable. However, their standards are inconsistent—Finland’s F/A-18C MLU2 hasn’t been equipped with AGM-65 missiles like Switzerland’s late models. So why isn’t the technical perspective considered in this case?
If the initial, least capable Finnish F-18C late model is unable to carry air-to-ground munitions due to technical limitations, then the upcoming F/A-18C MLU2 should face no such technical hurdles. So why is it still missing the AGM-65 missile capability?

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i think you asking wrong person about this question
@Smin1080p_WT why f/a-18c mlu2 doesnt have agm65 on dev? it was done on purpose due to technical limitation or devs “balancing” decision, or it gonna be added?

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Well, in this logic, should the American F/A-18C early be equated in terms of engine, countermeasures, and radar with the Swiss F/A-18C (Premium) since it is technically upgraded to such a capability? You do realize the difference between the two (better engines, twice the countermeasures, and better radar) confers a large and unfair advantage in terms of strength of vehicle right?

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F/A-18C (Early) Missing AIM-120A // Gaijin.net // Issues
When the American F/A-18C first came out, I made a similar bug report and received similar treatment lol.

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