I mean, they are adding it for a single plane right not (not a premium one, I’ll give him that) lol
Personal feeling, fwiw:
GAR-1 (SARH: F-89H): sure, why not? Lack of a prox will make it compare unfavourably to the first in-game Sparrows, though, as radar homing at any-aspect needs prox more than IR tailchasers of the same vintage do
GAR-1D (SARH: F-101B, F-102): same
GAR-2 (IR: F-89H, F-101B, F-102): by all accounts worse seeker head than an AIM-9B AND no prox. Probably junk. The F-89H with 3 of these, 3 GAR-1s, and only 42 rockets, would likely be a strugglebus, essentially inferior in every way to the F-89D already in-game.*
GAR-2A (IR: F-89J): even worse performance than GAR-2 due to being externally mounted. Removed from service due to uselessness, leaving the -J model with only nuclear Genie rockets. That’s pretty useless. Basis of the better Swedish Bofors Rb.28
GAR-2B (IR: F-4C/D/E): poor performance in Vietnam is probably overstated. But if it had a prox it is estimated it would only have had the same kill rate as the Vietnam AIM-9, so it would likely be inferior in game to existing IR armament on the F-4. Same IR seeker as GAR-4A. Aka AIM-4D
GAR-3A (SARH: F-106), GAR-4A (IR: F-106), by all accounts much-improved missiles, probably at least useable… if the 106 ever made it to game. Still no prox head in US service though, so probably still inferior performance overall compared to the first post-Vietnam AIM-7/AIM-9s. Aka AIM-4F and AIM-4G, “Super Falcon”
GAR-11A (SARH: F-102), HM-55 (SARH: Swiss Mirage), Rb.27 (SARH: Draken): in game now, first prox-fuzed Falcon. Aka AIM-26. Significantly bigger than predecessors.
Rb.28 (IR: Draken): Swedish improved variant, may have had a prox fuze (?), supposedly superior to the GAR-2B/-4A
* God help the F-101B’s BR if you don’t also have its Genie nukes (and god help everyone else if it did…). F-101A/C as an F-105 style bombtruck really should be the way to get the Voodoo in game, I think, not the B-model nuclear interceptor. At least the F-102 you could give it the AIM-26 and the F-106 had a gun option.
The Rb.28 apparently also got used on the AJ 37 Viggen and the Swiss Mirage (as the HM-58)
I’ve found conflicting sources on what missile it actually was based on and wether or not it has a proximity fuze.
As I’ve said before, I don’t mind at all that the various Falcons might end up being pretty bad, I would love to use them anyways.
I couldn’t find any evidence the Swiss actually ever bought the HM-58 in any quantity, only the -55 from Hughes seems to have been used operationally on their Mirages. The Swedes built their own Rb. 28s through Bofors, which were greatly improved. But according to the source I linked above (which also has a picture of an AJ-37 with Rb. 28s), “the Rb.28 was included in the initial armament package for derivatives of the more advanced J-37 Viggen. However, usage of the Rb.28 on the Viggen apparently ended following the discovery of handling issues pertaining to carrying AAMs on the outer wing pylons, those wired for Rb.28 carriage…” The Draken F and J definitely carried it though.
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I could imagine that Switzerland considered the AIM-4C (HM-58) for their Mirages, but ultimately decided against buying them. It would be plausible that the Mirage IIIS could carry the HM-58, but probably only on the centre pylon.
The Swedish Arboga Robotmuseum also has some mentions of the JA 37 having the ability to also carry and fire Rb.27s in addition to the Rb.28. Sadly I don’t speak Swedish and the translations on the site aren’t very good lol
edit: actually, scratch that last part, trying different translation methods got me confused as heck
Nope, only HM-55S.
Can you screenshot the entire swiss tree in Germany?
If we get the PC-21
I want this skin for it
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I’ve seen these irl they are amazing
They’re actually considerably more maneuverable (15-18g depending on model) and with generally better seekers, the lack of a proxy fuze is their only real shortcoming, plus the pretty poor energy. They’re dogfight missiles, a low tier R-73.
An old post breaking down the performance using SMC data:
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Bomb truck with no bombs?
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Yeah those were removed though when Italy became a thing (I still have all those bombers) and were not replaced with another subnation.
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Yeah, it’s a stretch, but all the remaining century-series not in game yet are. 101, 102 and 106 were all fast, clumsy planes with either poor or non-existent effective (conventional) armaments. Can’t really blame Gaijin for leaving them out. (We can add the Avro Arrow and late-model F-89 to that list too.)
4 M39s isn’t ineffective, nor are the 101s clumsy.
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The C-35 is needed to balance the Swordfish and Po-2. They are truly monstrous planes, and only the C-35 can bring peace to the skies.
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Little self-advertisment: Published some C-3604 skins, two historical ones, one semi-historic:
WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee: C-601 Prototype
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WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee C-602 Neutrality Markings
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WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee: C-447, semihistorical as C-3603-1 Schlepp
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I’ve also done an improved version of the default skin, including the missing tail number and squadron badges, but still missing good reference for some details on the wing camo, so I’m not done yet completely:
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Very lovely! Especially the second one.
Why does the premium hornet not have a hmd? In the current cockpit model you can clearly see switches to turn hmd/ hms on or off.
Because it was only added in a later upgrade…
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It is possible that gaijin either used the wrong cockpit model or the Swiss didn’t buy the planes with HMD installed originally. Just because the button exists doesn’t mean the specific plane necessarily had HMD installed. (a good example is the non MLU finish F-18C, it is the same as the american F-18C Late but the finish did buy it without HMD and only got HMD later)
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Yes, I don’t think gaijin makes a lot of different cockpit versions for (sub-)variants. See e.g. Harrier GR.1 which has GR.3 cockpit with CMS controls…