Swiss Aircraft Line & the C-3604!

I couldn’t find any evidence the Swiss actually ever bought the HM-58 in any quantity, only the -55 from Hughes seems to have been used operationally on their Mirages. The Swedes built their own Rb. 28s through Bofors, which were greatly improved. But according to the source I linked above (which also has a picture of an AJ-37 with Rb. 28s), “the Rb.28 was included in the initial armament package for derivatives of the more advanced J-37 Viggen. However, usage of the Rb.28 on the Viggen apparently ended following the discovery of handling issues pertaining to carrying AAMs on the outer wing pylons, those wired for Rb.28 carriage…” The Draken F and J definitely carried it though.

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I could imagine that Switzerland considered the AIM-4C (HM-58) for their Mirages, but ultimately decided against buying them. It would be plausible that the Mirage IIIS could carry the HM-58, but probably only on the centre pylon.

The Swedish Arboga Robotmuseum also has some mentions of the JA 37 having the ability to also carry and fire Rb.27s in addition to the Rb.28. Sadly I don’t speak Swedish and the translations on the site aren’t very good lol

edit: actually, scratch that last part, trying different translation methods got me confused as heck

Nope, only HM-55S.

Can you screenshot the entire swiss tree in Germany?

If we get the PC-21
I want this skin for it

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I’ve seen these irl they are amazing

They’re actually considerably more maneuverable (15-18g depending on model) and with generally better seekers, the lack of a proxy fuze is their only real shortcoming, plus the pretty poor energy. They’re dogfight missiles, a low tier R-73.
An old post breaking down the performance using SMC data:

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Bomb truck with no bombs?

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Yeah those were removed though when Italy became a thing (I still have all those bombers) and were not replaced with another subnation.

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Yeah, it’s a stretch, but all the remaining century-series not in game yet are. 101, 102 and 106 were all fast, clumsy planes with either poor or non-existent effective (conventional) armaments. Can’t really blame Gaijin for leaving them out. (We can add the Avro Arrow and late-model F-89 to that list too.)

4 M39s isn’t ineffective, nor are the 101s clumsy.

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The C-35 is needed to balance the Swordfish and Po-2. They are truly monstrous planes, and only the C-35 can bring peace to the skies.

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Little self-advertisment: Published some C-3604 skins, two historical ones, one semi-historic:

WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee: C-601 Prototype

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WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee C-602 Neutrality Markings

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WT Live // Camouflage by Schindibee: C-447, semihistorical as C-3603-1 Schlepp

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I’ve also done an improved version of the default skin, including the missing tail number and squadron badges, but still missing good reference for some details on the wing camo, so I’m not done yet completely:

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Very lovely! Especially the second one.

Why does the premium hornet not have a hmd? In the current cockpit model you can clearly see switches to turn hmd/ hms on or off.

Because it was only added in a later upgrade…

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It is possible that gaijin either used the wrong cockpit model or the Swiss didn’t buy the planes with HMD installed originally. Just because the button exists doesn’t mean the specific plane necessarily had HMD installed. (a good example is the non MLU finish F-18C, it is the same as the american F-18C Late but the finish did buy it without HMD and only got HMD later)

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Yes, I don’t think gaijin makes a lot of different cockpit versions for (sub-)variants. See e.g. Harrier GR.1 which has GR.3 cockpit with CMS controls…

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very cool gaijin, clearly a lot of effort went into modelling and texturing work

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That’s clearly your settings bro

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full ultra settings and ssaa4x? not enough for a texture that is not 128x128 i guess
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btw this is how this tiger should look like, on another skin
maybe someone else should check, could be some freak one off bug on my side