it kinda is already, it has proper guided bombs, better guns, much more flares, 10 times more to be more specific, and better handling at higher speed.
If you add magic 2 it would completely outclass it, not only would have all aspect missiles, but also one with irccm, the SEM is fine at 10.0
As i said nothing unusual for planes at the same br in War Thunder. 10.3 would also be an option.
The guided air to groudn ammunition does of course not matter for this comparision. Since A-10 and SU-25 have similar guided air to ground armarement.
the first air to air missile with irccm is at 11.3, so it would be unusual. btw unusual are missiles of the other 2, most of the planes in that br and over only have rear aspect only missiles, between 10.7 and 10.0 there are aside form the a10, a6 and su25, only a couple of sea harriers that have all aspect missiles, even at 11.0 there are several aircraft doesnt have them, and there are 37 planes that has only rear aspect only missiles vs 7 that has all aspect, the rear aspect are the usual thing on this br
it does, the q5L is 9.7 just because it has guided bombs, everything add into the equation, and btw the loadout of the su 25 isnt really similar, for instance it doesnt have a proper targeting camera, so the rockets are a better option than the “guided missiles”
AND also the SEM keeps having an overall better flight performance than those 2. keep in mind that the av8b/gr7 are 11.7 with similar flight performance and with 2 more missiles that would be equivalent to the magic 2, so 10.3 is probably out of the cuestion. also the sea harrier the sea harrier is also 10.3 with just aim 9L which are inferior to the magic 2, and doesnt have guided munitions either, and lest not forget the a7s that are all over 10.3 with only rear aspect missile aside from the one at 11.0, and all have 2 of them.
Unusual regarding the balance of aircraft at the same Br. Even so Super Étendard is more on the side of A-10 as well as A-6 and Su-25. If there must be compression at least favour a non US or Svoiet vehicle for once.
AIM-9L only is inferior to Magic 2 if the latter has effective IRCCM.
Some good points but they have not stopped other additions from being strangely placed.
On the other hand some of your points apply to different aircraft which still sit at the same br as the superior vehicle.
That is all I can say. For the Br in general a Magic 2 lacking Super Étendard might be best but seeing the state of compression and power creep I see nothing wrong with Super Étendard profitting.
it is not, it is more on the side of the sea harriers or a7s.
it does have an effective IRCCM…
i disagree as i advocate for decompression, it doesnt matter who produces it, what does matter is not worsening the situation even more, and adding magic 2 would increase the compression even more
Decompression would be lovely but I’ve been waiting for it for quite some time now.
Dogfighting Harrier is easier than A-10 in my opinion.
F-16C with AIM-9M and AIm-7M compared to Netz and F-16A shows even gerater imbalance by a meagre 0.3 Br difference.
We could go around in circles for ever on this.
the sea harrier and the gr7 have a full br difference… its change is the same as the one between the f16 adf and the f16c. aim 9m and guided weapons.
Harrier’s got nothing to do with the comparison.
because you said so? thats pretty arrogant of you, it is probably a much better example than a top tier fighter
No I was comparing the F-16C - F-16A/Netz situation to the A-10, A-6, SU-25 - Super Étendard situation.
it is the same situation… besides, top tier is a completely different scenario. a better option is the ajs 37 and the aj 37 also a full br difference.
The point was that with similar or worse power creep the Br difference can be as small as 0.3…
If it is to much Br could still be adjusted. Hell the all aspect strike jets are still to low because of compression.
the SEM is fine at 10.0
SEM late (Damoclès, AS30L, magic 2) would have been very good also at BR 11 like A-7K (for exemple)
If not even better.
( though let us not mention the fact that the A-7K never carried 9Ls, that was a feature of the 7E lol.)
The current super etendard is missing sas in sim.
Idk the way to fix the aircraft seem like reducing the BR to 9.3 or 9.7, removing LGBs and pods (Basicly introducing normal super etendard)
And introducing the most capable modernised version around 11.0
Current SEM is told to be the last one
So i would do the following:
Add Anemone radar
Add Magic-II + AS-30L + AM.39
Send it to 11.0 (because of Magic-2, while being Worse than Every Mirage F.1, in payload +FM abilities)
Add a new SUE Standard 3 with AGAVE Radar, with only 2x Magic-I, dummy bombs, 2x AS.30L, and LC-3 Flare dispenser only (tail launcher, replacing parachute in it’s compartment) at a BR of 9.7
Anyone else see Tim’s Variety’s video on the SuE?
He mentioned that Exocet (and similar) isn’t coming any time soon :(
Idk, maybe I’m late to the party, but that’s new and devastating news to me </3
Well,… at the same time, there is no ships at those BR’s,…
The only ASM is AS.34 Kormoran on Some Event Tornadoes.
The problem ain’t to add or not those missiles,…
As they should have been added alongside those planes,…
It is weird to see that when Gaijin will go on ships and bring BR of 12.0,… like some Spruance class destroyer or Udaloy class.
But when they will do that,… we certainly going to keep on old fashionned, and unspecific weaponnary,…
As AM.39 Exocet for exemple have a maximal Range of 70km at 10.0 BR, many ships would not be able to defend against it.
True, but even if they aren’t usable against player vehicles, they’d be a really cool addition.