177 got official military designation?
no
but i would expect that whatever engine will enter service will get the Al-51 designation
preferably the stronger one of the two
Izd 30 was pushed back indefinitely from what i know
but Izd 177 will have 16 tons of thrust on afterburner
well both types have have been tested on a T-50 so it may be possible to get either on the su57 instead of al41 on release (like al41 and irbis on su30sm2, even though the irbis wasn’t even planned for it and it was only tested on an Su-30MKK)
Do we even have specifics on Izd. 30?
rumored to have performance close to AL-41 (i mean the OG one, installed on a MiG 1.44)
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