Sukhoi Su-57 Felon - Technical details, Analysis and Discussion

Was it Algeria that purchased Su-57? I would be very skeptical that they purchased a stealth aircraft without an A2A missile that can fit inside of weapon bays.

Su-75 is export only I’m pretty sure and is advertised with r-77m

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RVV-SD2 here we go!

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Because they already had the rvv-sd with the 30mka.

Only suspected a2a purchase is the rvv-bd on both 35 and 57.

Yes they cant fit inside the 57 but still does the 77-1

Speaking of the elephant in the room.

Wasn’t supposed to get the first fligh in the first quarter of the year like the engineer said it like 3 months ago ?

True,
But
I would bet it’s not happening until 2027 atp

Well, i guess it has some sense to get Su-57 as a ground strike focused craft, considering survivability of a stealth aircraft and its ability to carry up to 4 Kh-58USHKE
I still can’t get why Kh-58 can fit inside but R-37M can’t, considering that they both have bodies of exact same dimensions and only difference is folding wings. Is it that hard to make folding wings for R-37M?

They also have the su34…

So no i dont think they got su57 for ground attack. Maybe sead.

Mostly its a air combat focused plane. Support for strike plane ( exactly like russia su34 with su35 ) or even simple air superiority.

without internally carried A2A missile… why bother at this point? Just buy even more Su-35

Most combat is around 200km like we see it indo-paki event.

Thats with 4th gen fighters.

Now looking around algeria. Only f16 blk52 and rafale and maybe eft spain are present ( not including italy f35 as both nation have good relationships and italys buy all it oil and gaz from algeria)

They are mostly 4th gen. 5th vs 4th we can expect the su57 to have a advantage and get a little closed around 150km.

Who can enough for the rvv-sd if launched at hight alt and good speed.

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But, with external weapons Su-57 will loose advantage in stealth. Sure defenicve suite with LDIRCM and such might be superior to Su-35S but i think N035 + R-37M still offers more range than N036 + R-37M

Thats with no external weapons…

If we are talking about r37m. Any plane wont matter.

Hell even mig25 can shoot it and su57 or 35 provide datalinks. But problem is the rvv-bd is limited to 200km and only 1 way data link.

Wont worth to sacrifice su57 atp just use su35 and hope for good

But with no external weapons we are talking about Su-57 with RVV-MD2 which is short range Fox-2 and… a gun?

And 4 r77 in bomb bay ???

Bro dont tell me you didnt know

IIRC there is no concrete evidence that R-77/RVV-AE can fit inside. I am not even sure that they are produced with folding fins.

@kizvy you still got that one video of t50 launching r77 with folding fin ?

That was for 6 r77.

4 of them can fit easy

Nah that was a render

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Well, for now we have no evidence. Probably they can fit, but i will be undecided until we actually see either footage or at least a photo.

For now, let me just spread some misinformation.

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Best way to know they can fit in the bay.

Take any flanker and put in loadout a grom and r77 next to each other.