The Su-47 armament compartment…
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its not about it having Hardpoints, its about it having the wiring and capability to actually fire the weapons, again going back to the EAP, it had hardpoints and flew with inert missiles, but lacked the wiring to fire them, making them useless
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God damn, 144 A2A missiles!
The entire aircraft was a test bed for the retractable weapons bay on the SU-57, hence why it only has 1 internal bay for a maximum of 2 missiles on the 2 mock-up hardpoints. Where the SU-57 features 2 of these bays in tandem (1 behind the other).
The XL as far as I’m aware was finished as they just took a regular F16 and modified the wings
The XL was finished enough to be armed tbh
I mean there was that Photo of it with 2 9L’s on the wingtips. Though whether there was anything else on it I wouldn’t know.
Not so!..The S-37 (since 2001, the Su-47) has always been claimed by Sukhoi as an experimental aircraft, it was journalists who came up with the Legend that this is a prototype of a 5th generation fighter …
- For example, it has a wing made of 90% composite materials (only the power set is metal and also 15% of the airframe made of composite materials…
- About the armament compartment-take a close look at the early photos and drawing… At that time, it was the only domestic aircraft having the dimensions of a fighter, but at the same time equipped with an internal cargo compartment…
- The first photo…In 2006-2007, Berkut received a new cargo bay, created according to the T-50 project. The purpose of this revision was to check the flaps and internal equipment of the compartment for operability in real flight conditions. The Su-47 with such a cargo compartment made about 70 flights with open doors. Interestingly, the doors of the first test compartment were opened and fixed on the ground. In 2008-2009, the Su-47 received an updated payload volume with flap opening mechanisms. In 2009, 25 flights were performed with the opening of the flaps.
Funnily enough I was thinking of the backwards wing F-16 when I said the XL. But this is much more interesting.
the XL could be added to the game pretty easily, same with a lot of the experimental US aircraft as a lot of them kept there hardpoints or had hardpoints added to them, pretty sure the F-15 with thrust vectoring could also be armed
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I see no reason why this could not be added. If it had designs/plans to be armed, and nothing is physically stopping it from carrying its appropriate weaponry, then I cant see why not.
You absolutely can’t claim “historical accuracy/authenticity” as that has not been the reality of war thunder for as long as I can remember. We have plenty of ahistorical setups in game, some far more aggregious than this. Its not like adding napkin tanks or anything even close to that.
And after all, WT is just a game, its not a documentary or research paper.
The problem is that it was never planned to be armed or armed in any way. It didn’t even have any hardpoints, FCS or wiring of any sort. The entire reason behind it’s existance was to test composite materials and forward-swept wings and to then be discarded which is exactly what happened to it. All armament charts are just theoretical wishlisting by fans of it entertaining the though of what it could maybe have became if it was indeed ever planned to be turned into an actual combat capable aircraft, which others then misinterpreted as to thinking it could actually carry and use said armaments.
Like you could wishlist this aircraft all you want, it’s never going to get added. Just ask Smin on his opinion on the EAP getting added which has a much higher likelyhood of getting added than the SU-47 as it was actually a prototype for an actual combat aircraft. The entire existance of this suggestion is quite frankly bogus due to all of this. If a suggestion for the SU-47 can be made then planes like the X-15 should also be completely valid suggestions as they served the same purposes as aircraft. A suggestion for a Boeing 737 should also be valid since it’s an aircraft just as combat capable as the SU-47.
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An aircraft we absolutely don’t need. There are far more useful and enjoyable vehicles that could be added to the game instead. I even find it strange that this cool prototype is receiving so much attention like this. I am against adding prototypes that never even entered production to the game. What makes War Thunder truly loved is its ability to balance realism and arcade mechanics effectively. Additions like this turn the game into a fantasy experience. Such unnecessary additions, made solely to satisfy the personal preferences of a few individuals, bring no value to the game.
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Such as?.. Like, cmon, there’s nothing much left beyond already known MiG-29 and Su-27 (with it forked FM). Only thing left is MiG-25/MiG-31 with (I highly doubt) other interceptors such as Yak-28P, Su-15 and Tu-128
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yes this should be in russia tech tree or as a event vehicle
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+1, want this sh#t in game now i love the backward concept
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would actually be the perfect event vehicle
Never actually was used or mass produced, a couple were made and proven to fly, extremely unique, iconic in some senses.
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Bump <3
As an event vehicle, when?
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