In other words, should flankers gain better maneuverability at low to medium speeds? Also, does that mean the F-15’s low-speed maneuverability is excessive?
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
The Su-27 should be much better at low speeds. Advantage over F-15 up to 5 degrees/s
Based on which source are you claiming this?
Thank you! Do you happen to know where this graph is coming from? Maybe you’ve send it earlier in the thread but then I’ve missed it :)
DCS
Bad example.
The Su-27 there configured completely incorrectly.
And F-15 overperfoming.
The game engine itself in DCS is also much worse.
Carefully read what is written
The physics of the engine is much better there
Can’t argue with that.
it’s my videos…
I’m seeing possible discussion that the FM is wrong, but I am not seeing in-game video testing parameters again from the manual … just random DCS graphs? Really?
Thought we knew better than to compare to DCS.
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Read more carefully what is written on the charts
There is nothing to read, what you post is complete nonsense to the average forum user. These graphs mean nothing if you aren’t going to explain and compare directly from the manual with side-by-side footage of how it performs in the game.
If you can’t elaborate what the issue is in English there is nothing to discuss.
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These are the graphs from the manual superimposed on each other
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Posting a graph superimposed with another planes performance doesn’t show us that there is an issue.
Doing so is pointless, the primary source material is available. You went to the trouble of super imposing unknown sources but can’t record the in-game performance and log the data on the same chart from the source?
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First, read what it was about, and only then draw conclusions
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It’s impossible because you are not making sense. You’ve posted graphs. There is no in-game video or anything shown to suggest they do not perform to these values.
Further, your language barrier is preventing you from elaborating or explaining yourself. If you think there is an issue perhaps it is easier to discuss on the RU forum.
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This, is something we can us as valid reference.
27 may have both 1C, 2C advantage under 400kts
15 may have both 1C, 2C advantage over 400kts
I assume current dev FM is quite fine-modeled
I don’t trust Russian sources for the F-15, we have the manuals for both. No need to use this chart.
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