Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

It’s 24 degrees there and I have no information that there should be more

it says 23.5, but i still think it should be more than the f16, in this case, su27 should only lose 1c to delta wings, with 23.5 or even 24 it still can and will lose to something like the f16blk 10/15/20 in 1c


It’s just a shame.

Can you be more specific? What is wrong with the data and in what direction?

Geometric dimensions, areas. Moments of inertia
empty weight,fuel weight

I still don’t know what’s going on with the polar diagram

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This won’t and can’t be the case. There isn’t room for error when modeling the FM and the F-15 doesn’t have the excuse of being statically unstable.

have you seen the f15 now? it looks like it can beat the su27 at 1c and also it has way more controll at extreme low speeds, it can still maneuver really well at like 200km/h or less, while the su27 cant, i cant say for sure since i just saw this at the defyn stream today, but the f15 looks way too good at 1c and slow speeds compared to the su27, for some reason the su27 can beat the f15 in a rate fight if both just hold S, (shouldn’t the f15 have an advantage in 2c and rate fights?)

maybe I’m just worried about the fate of the su27 since I see so many people complaining nonstop about the f15, just like they did with the f16 and now gaijin refuses to fix lol

It is simple enough to compare the charts and see how they perform. The Su-27’s FM was buffed, the F-15’s was also adjusted slightly (fixing overload issues allegedly). I need to look at the datamine.

Once they are live I will look further into them, I think maybe BBCRF is on another witch hunt that will convince people it is underperforming in some way that it is not. The devs are very wise imo.

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ok, thanks for paying attention to the su27 changes

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The FM SU-27 is disgusting. It’s anything but a Su-27,In addition to STR, there are other criteria such as acceleration, loss of height for a coup, rate of climb, stability and controllability

Can you show the charts + video if it failing to do so in-game?

It’s clear here without the video, while the moments of inertia are not correct, the geometric dimensions are not correct

Thanks @I_Phobos_I

Hm?

If you watch this video, a funny picture comes out, F-15,F-16 high-speed fighters, Su-27 small ones.However, in the game, the F-16 and F-15 also turned into low-speed fighters, which is completely absurd.Grippen does not understand UFOs, still does not tend to dive at large AoA,

Isn’t it too early to judge the Su-27, it’s literally not set up at all right now.
It should be a cut above at low speeds and keep up at medium speeds.