i think the tests need to be made in full reall controlls and you have to show the in game values to be valid, i think @MiG_23M or @DracoMindC can explain that better
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
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I recorded the video, will upload it soon, but I dont know the best practices to test, would be willing to be teached and do some tests.
Edited the post above with video link.
ok now im testing with the 18920kg fuel mass + 2 R27 and 2 R-73 and yeah seems to be underperforming a fair bit
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They straight up refuse to answer, same bullshit with M735
tests with Instructor enabled are useless. You must try in full real controls.
Okay, but doesn’t 95%+ of the playerbase plays with instructor?
several things wrong, using instructor, and your aircraft is too heavy this graph is for an aircraft with ~11 min fuel and 2 R-27R and 2 R-73
I will patiently keep asking this to @Smin1080p everyday until we can get an answer, I don’t know who else I can ask. This is fantasy and fiction, literally the exact same engine and plane but 1 gets more thrust? Why? J-11 might be 500kg heavier but it never had this extra fantasy thrust.
Even @MiG_23M asked this question and he was left unanswered, and he is a much more respected member of this forum and he is a frequent FM reporter and tester.
Why does J-11 get more thrust from engines compared to SU-27 at low speed despite being the same plane with EXACTLY SAME ENGİNES?
can be found here in datamines of the game
(7) Datamine 2.33.0.4 → 2.33.0.14 Part 1 + Special Announcements : Warthunder (reddit.com)
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bug reports made with full reall controls directly affect how the instructor behaves on the plane,
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Make report please, and share the report link 🙏🏻
IRL Oswald 0.75
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How do we make a report about this? Any source? Anything we can show to gaijin?
Social credit +15
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there is no why, maybe because in this report the j_11 was not included… Community Bug Reporting System
you can report it if you want
it is around 2% at static
I found these that all say that SU-27 should have Oswald 0.71 - 0.75 , literally nobody says it is 0.45, only gaijin says this, probably to nerf it. But they are not primary sources.
Estimating the Oswald Factor from Basic Aircraft Geometrical Parameters (haw-hamburg.de)
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There is no instructor on full real, maybe you worded it incorrectly.
Thank you very much for answering :)
I have made the report about it, thank you again for guiding me and the explanation.
i apprecaite it a lot.
J-11 engine did not get corrected like SU-27 // Gaijin.net // Issues
I think he meant any changes made with comparing full real control performance to real life charts will also affect the FM in RB mouse aim
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Let’s give them a chance cuz it’s only the first week of the update, i’m confident they’ll soon fix the flanker and the f-15, although it has been several months since the f-16 is overperforming and they keep saying that they can’t fix because of this and that… Kinda suspicious but that’s life, the reports were done, let’s hope for the best
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