What?
I don’t think I’ve ever said the Su-27S is enough for top tier let alone equal to other 13.7s.
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
I don’t think the SM3 engines will be enough to make an actual difference in the performance, it might improve a bit but it’ll still be pretty poor if they don’t touch the core of the problem which is the fm…
I believe the main issue for now is the overperforming engine made to compensate the high drag of the FM like @Giovanex05 pointed out, how this could be translated into a report i don’t really know but i think it should be the main thing to focus on
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The 2 extra missiles and improved engines will make it a better plane at least. I don’t think it’ll catchup to the F-15I but the SM3 might be needed for RU to stay competitive.
Tbh i personally don’t think that the su-27 is super shit at the game rn i just want the performance to be closer to how it is irl because it feels super weird to fly it, kinda like if they added a maneuverable mig25.
Regardless, considering balancing reasons imo 2+ missiles and a slightly better engine won’t change the figure at all, it’ll have the same radar and access the same weaponry which although not shitty it isn’t that good if you compare to the western counterparts ingame, we’ll only see substantial improvements for the flanker family with the addition of su30sm2 or the su35.
Talking about weaponry, does anyone know how the later versions of the r77 compare to the current r77 we have ingame and which flanker can equip them?
I’m looking forward to the Su-34’s radar because I am sick and tired at the sorry excuse of a radar that the flanker has. It feels like an exercise in frustration to even attempt to BVR combat with the R-77’s. You see the target, select it with the targeting cue and spool up the seeker. Oops. That’s not where the target. He was there six or seven seconds ago. But we can’t get a missile lock since he’s not there anymore. Where is he now? I don’t know. Ask again in eight seconds. There are some enemy missiles inbound now. From over there, where we’re scanning. But we don’t see them yet. Maybe in another eight seconds.
Meanwhile I fly planes on another nation and my radars instantly light the target up especially after I narrow down the search pattern so that I’m only tracking the important slice of the sky when I’m trying to track a target…
On that topic did the Su-27 and Su-27SM really not have a variety of different search patterns for their radars? I have a really hard time believing that.
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R-77-1 is mostly the same as the R-77, just with a 2 stage motor instead of a 1 stage.
R-77, 6s (23kN)
R-77-1, 2s (34.5kN) + 5s (18.4kN)
Improves its range a decent bit, but after the 7 seconds it still hits the exact same drag wall.
AFAIK, any flanker that can use R-77’s.
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They do not
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This is the crutch of implementation in the game
Don’t know the j10 but the Gripen is definitely B’s it doesn’t lose Speed in Turns
Despite it Being a design feature of delta Wings
So it should lose Speed like all the other Doritos
It’s normal that it loses much less speed than normal deltas, it’s an unstable canard configuration.
But yeah it should lose more speed.
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Your screenshot is of an Su-34, a sidegrade to all other CAS in the Soviet tech tree.
Su-34 has no new weapon types added to War Thunder.
So yeah, there’s no one-sided nature being added except Brimstone which is being artificially nerfed.
I’d say its an upgrade. It still has the KH-38s but this time on a platform thats fast and can defend itself.
The su-34 is more of a jack of all traits, it dosn’t have its own thermals, so worse than su-25sm3, but it has more kh-38mt’s. It has less missiles and no HMD and much heavier than the su-27sm.
But what could the su-34M/su-34NVO bring, intigrated thermals/new taregting pod? HMD? bc rn it the regular one would be good but not anything special except from being able to carry 6 kh-38.
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“Fast”
At best as-fast as a Tornado.
It weighs 22.5 tons empty, and you need 58% loaded fuel to match the afterburner time of Tornado, and to match the afterburner time of F-4E you need 62% fuel loaded.
Compared to the Su-25
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You can use thermals from the kh38 in tv mode tho, for ground RB It might be the best cas
In comparison to Su-25? 34 is absolutely faster
