The f15a is particularly super strange to say the least, its performance compared to the f15c is just considerably superior
I’m not sure why the C variants of F-15 and F-16 would be somewhat accurate, yet Gaijin overestimated their performance for the A variants.
At 450 kph the A can sustain 21 deg/s while the C less than 19 deg/s, i understand that they are heavier but damn it’s just too much.
F-15C engines are overall worser, untill 1.6 mach(or smth like that)
I’m probably imagining this but I feel that the way the Flanker flies on dev server is somewhat different compared to live? Maybe changes to the instructor?
it does feel a bit more agile and maneuverable, atleast when i tried the su-34
It doesn’t feel different in the dev
What feels different though are the R-73s. It doesn’t wobble like at all! Even when the missile is flying straight which notoriously makes it wobble.
Missiles tend to be much more stable in test drives than live battles. Could also apply to a lightly loaded server, like the dev. Not saying there is no difference, but be careful with the conclusion, especially considering that the R-73 file is unchanged.
You’re right. Just tested the live server R-73 in test flight (so connection does not impact it) and its the same.
I wonder if they fixed missile woblle in gsneral then, a lot of missiles have been woblling a lot as of the last year or so, it was just more noticeable on the thrust vectored ones
quit derailing this thread lol
Aw beans
I really hope that with the addition of the Su-34 they take the FM of the Su-27 into consideration for once. Especially w/o sim controls, since most players play Air RB as opposed to Sim.
I just want my Flanker not to be hot garbage, yet the snail demands otherwise.
Man we should really get the Su-27SM3 like right now lmao
The F-15I (PW-229) is absolutely bonkers. It can reach 1620ias on the deck and accelerates like crazy
Weren’t you the one saying even the base Su-27S was enough?
What?
I don’t think I’ve ever said the Su-27S is enough for top tier let alone equal to other 13.7s.
I don’t think the SM3 engines will be enough to make an actual difference in the performance, it might improve a bit but it’ll still be pretty poor if they don’t touch the core of the problem which is the fm…
I believe the main issue for now is the overperforming engine made to compensate the high drag of the FM like @Giovanex05 pointed out, how this could be translated into a report i don’t really know but i think it should be the main thing to focus on
The 2 extra missiles and improved engines will make it a better plane at least. I don’t think it’ll catchup to the F-15I but the SM3 might be needed for RU to stay competitive.
Tbh i personally don’t think that the su-27 is super shit at the game rn i just want the performance to be closer to how it is irl because it feels super weird to fly it, kinda like if they added a maneuverable mig25.
Regardless, considering balancing reasons imo 2+ missiles and a slightly better engine won’t change the figure at all, it’ll have the same radar and access the same weaponry which although not shitty it isn’t that good if you compare to the western counterparts ingame, we’ll only see substantial improvements for the flanker family with the addition of su30sm2 or the su35.
Talking about weaponry, does anyone know how the later versions of the r77 compare to the current r77 we have ingame and which flanker can equip them?