Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

Huh, apparently the report that Su-30SM2 should NOT have Irbis got accepted

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xD

They’re gonna fix it in december and drop the Su35 at the same time, I’m willing to bet.

Which one? I remember reading multiple.

Send the link, if possible.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0PVbLeanHOAh

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Thanks Ron. ^^

Bot a nug

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I’m annoyed that they closed the comments so fast.

The guy who made the report seemed to have the Sukhoi anniversary book on a PDF or something, but the comments closed before I could ask for it, and I can’t find him on the forums to dm and ask.

pro tip:

just go to another bug report he made and ask him there

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good idea.

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So… Su30SM2 shouldn’t have Irbis but magically there is some unknown radar that supposedly twice as good and not N011, maybe put that thing in Su35s instead? /s

(Quoting main constructor → Characteristics of radar were changed, add new modes … , increased range by factor of two and improved ESM alllowing it to target *******

First production run is indeed was using AL31 and in 2024 version with 41 was being tested and next ‘run’ was supposed to get them)

How can you increase range of radar without physical changes?

Maybe ?

Wouldn’t that upgrade be the ‘Irbis’ since it was based on the ‘bars’?

then why say the bars will retain is array

i went through all that once already

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Isn’t that an export mod?

Generally export modifications are 10-30% downgraded, so … Maybe some bars modification had more than 150 or they indeed plucked antenna from Irbis inserted it into SM2, and then just went to change radar in Su35sm

Idk, anyway that old man sure has read more sekret documents


Fun fact that export section seems to be nuked now

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and the same would go for the IRBIS-E(xport) as well

so that is a pointless argument

and then again in the same video that old man specifies that the Su-30SM2 will recive the same engine as the Su-35

so why not say that it has the same radar?

ontop of that in that video they show the 30SM2 production line,
and this is most definetly not an IRBIS but a BARS


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Not sure you get away with that anymore.
Algerias Su-57 has to be as close to Russias as possible. They will not accept missing systems and downgraded performance.

and even then, if it is the case, i was comparing 2 export radars with each other so it dosent matter

For sure it was more we are not in the 70s/80s exporting MiG 23s without RWRs