Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

[GitGood]

Table from Fomin book gives all dual seater Flankers Mach 2.0 speed limitations. But UAC official website gives Mach 1.75 for Su-30SME
Dor single seaters Fomin gives Mach 2.35, UAC websie gives 2.25 for Su-35
So i am not sure who to believe honestly

[Dzhkグ]

Older Sukhoi site says 1.9 for MKI derivatives.
Or at least Su-30s “With canard surfaces installed”

I have no idea why, but SME is rated at 1.75 while SM is 1.9.

[GitGood]

@Dzhkグ

I have no idea why, but SME is rated at 1.75 while SM is 1.9.

something something downgraded export version? Different glass, different hydraulics or structural elements? Honestly thisis very weird

[Dzhkグ]

That would be my best guess. I haven’t the faintest idea why SME is slower than SM.

[ILuvAna_De_Armas]

Can easily see the Su-35 at well over 2500 kmh, obviously it won’t be easily reachable in normal air RB matches, but something like nuke thunder could work.

[GitGood]

i don’t think that it is slower, i think it is breaking apart earlier

[Balta779517-live]

Real answer is probably just export general public advertising slop quality

[GitGood]

or this one, yeah. God i love Russian advert materials, outstanding quality, literally zero confusing elements, someone kill me please

[Dzhkグ]

You will have contridictoray sources and you will enjoy it.

[Dzhkグ]

These also have different weights listed, so it might be different materials. @GitGood

[Dzhkグ]

You can tell which one is SME and which one is SM by the noticable drop in quality.

[Sanguisage]

That alone together with one way dl would make it quite the good long range missile, don’t know how gaijin will implement aesa arh seekers though.

[ron_23]

SM weight is the same as for the 30MK

and the SME weight is the same as for the “Su-30MK with canards and TVC”

[vizender]

@Sanguisage

That alone together with one way dl

Meteor, MICA NG and Meteor MLU all feature 2 way datalink IRL. In general, all the newest long range missiles feature 2 way datalink

[coolguy_22]

They will give the Su-35 the Izd. 177S engine to make it different than the SM2. Trust

[quartas121]

right now DTIC website is being updated so i cant acess it but if you search up “tadircm pod” its the DTIC link

[ILuvAna_De_Armas]

Is there official documentation saying that certain flankers are capable of supercruising, and maybe some numbers too in that regard?

[DarKBird]

Considering their thrust is similar to AL-41, lmao

[Panther2995]

Su-35 should be able to supercruise iirc.

[ILuvAna_De_Armas]

Hmm I see.

With SM2 and level flight I was able to kinda keep this speed, it maybe dropped by 1 kmh every 3 or 4 minutes, still pretty high.