Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

Yep, to be fair also very dependant on how much lower the drag will be, and how the 200-ish kg of increased weight will affect it, still, my original point was: saying many aspects that make it a sidegrade is a stretch.

Hopefully same way that 600kg of weight made MiG-29KR significantly better than MiG-29M

True that, make Su-35 with over-rpm’ed AL-41’s that go red after 2 minutes, and give more thrust.

Funniest thing is…


this is MiG-29M and 29KR at the exact same engine power

Yeah I was referring to medium to high speed rather than slow speed dogfights actually, at that point it comes down to overall design,engine power and nozzle designs I think.

Anyway;

Snail god plox gib R-37/77M to my beloved SM2.

Do this and my life is yours.

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We might see more R-37M on SM2s, as i said above, latest batch had AKU-620s on the wing, they are used for R-37Ms.

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Personally as long as I can get 77M the amount of 37M will not be an issue for me, tho extra chonky missiles are always welcome in my book.

For that you need to look in the flight controls of the Flankers. I don’t remember where but i heard that canards are only active when they are needed to ensure airframe stability, rest of the time they are static, but i can’t be sure if its true or not.

No 77M for now, i only saw AKU-170s on them. Chief designer said that SM2 is compatible with “practially everything” in Russian arsenal, but “practically everything” and “everything” are not entirely the same thing

I’m assuming meteor will be getting mica em seeker wouldn’t it lol

Sounds good enough for me.

ONE BILLION R-77M FOR SM2!!!

Meteor uses a MICA derivated seeker yes. The MICA NG uses a new AESA seeker, and the meteor MLU (if the project continues despite Britain apparently leaving the MLU program) would use a derivated of this AESA seeker

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It could be that the export uses a slotted array while the indigenous one uses an AESA.

There is a probability of that, but since only data on RVV-SDM will be available, i thnik gaijin will just model R-77M off of it.

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Many such cases.

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I also found this from an earlier part of the Flanker Forum, supposedly Su-34NVO gets Thermals.

There was a discussion on Ru forums about what wavelength range is already infrared and what isn’t. I looked trough it briefly and it was something like Su-34 optical system operates at the edge between IR and visible spectrum.

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Found an interesting graphic showing the changes to T-10 vs T-10S.
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@GitGood little correction from what I said earlier in the discussion, max limit is actually 2.13 and not 2.09/10, and I also tracked the time it takes to get to such speed, honestly a less draggier Su-35 could be interesting at this alt.

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