Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

My man unless you’re flying in space and chasing speed records it will not matter in wt too much.

Yeah but it will also have worse instantaneous turning capabilities as well, it also has increased weight.

Meh, MAW is nice but other features aren’t as important.

Not necessarily, Su-35 still uses TVC for turning, canards don’t make you turn harder, they make you more stable as super high AOA.

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Does this apply for flankers only or in general?

Cause as far as I know canards gives you better instantaneous capabilities alongside with stability at high AOA’s.

Still even if thats not the case Su-35 will still have worse dogfight capabilities due to increased weight unless its an energy fight I believe.

And with reduced drag it will hit them much faster as well. This will help quite a lot during early game, giving you the best position and allowing you to send your missiles before SM2 can.
And, well, right now only Su-35S can potentially get 77Ms since it is the only one that was seen with AKU-ASP installed.

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Firing ground ordnance throught IRST without the need of TGP is not that bad if you ask me.

Or considering that IRST’s are able to fire R-77-1’s in game currently I think having the OLS 35 with more range might come in handy sometimes.

We both know gaijin doesnt care that, cough cough Al-41 engines and IRBIS on SM2, cough cough.

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Becaue you now can actually pull said AoA and not flatspin your ass. Su-27M would probably turn better than Su-27SM because of the canards, but once you get TVC into the game, canards advantage of stability becomes pretty meaningless

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Dude almost every modern Russian jet can do that, its not something special to Su-35.

In fact 29M should be able to guide guided munitions through IRST.

In practice both planes will able to launch in similiar conditions.

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it will just be OEPS-27, gaijin completely gave up on Russian IRSTs, if MiG-29KR is of any evidence

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Yep, to be fair also very dependant on how much lower the drag will be, and how the 200-ish kg of increased weight will affect it, still, my original point was: saying many aspects that make it a sidegrade is a stretch.

Hopefully same way that 600kg of weight made MiG-29KR significantly better than MiG-29M

True that, make Su-35 with over-rpm’ed AL-41’s that go red after 2 minutes, and give more thrust.

Funniest thing is…


this is MiG-29M and 29KR at the exact same engine power

Yeah I was referring to medium to high speed rather than slow speed dogfights actually, at that point it comes down to overall design,engine power and nozzle designs I think.

Anyway;

Snail god plox gib R-37/77M to my beloved SM2.

Do this and my life is yours.

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We might see more R-37M on SM2s, as i said above, latest batch had AKU-620s on the wing, they are used for R-37Ms.

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Personally as long as I can get 77M the amount of 37M will not be an issue for me, tho extra chonky missiles are always welcome in my book.

For that you need to look in the flight controls of the Flankers. I don’t remember where but i heard that canards are only active when they are needed to ensure airframe stability, rest of the time they are static, but i can’t be sure if its true or not.

No 77M for now, i only saw AKU-170s on them. Chief designer said that SM2 is compatible with “practially everything” in Russian arsenal, but “practically everything” and “everything” are not entirely the same thing