Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 3)

pro tip:

just go to another bug report he made and ask him there

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good idea.

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So… Su30SM2 shouldn’t have Irbis but magically there is some unknown radar that supposedly twice as good and not N011, maybe put that thing in Su35s instead? /s

(Quoting main constructor → Characteristics of radar were changed, add new modes … , increased range by factor of two and improved ESM alllowing it to target *******

First production run is indeed was using AL31 and in 2024 version with 41 was being tested and next ‘run’ was supposed to get them)

How can you increase range of radar without physical changes?

Maybe ?

Wouldn’t that upgrade be the ‘Irbis’ since it was based on the ‘bars’?

then why say the bars will retain is array

i went through all that once already

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Isn’t that an export mod?

Generally export modifications are 10-30% downgraded, so … Maybe some bars modification had more than 150 or they indeed plucked antenna from Irbis inserted it into SM2, and then just went to change radar in Su35sm

Idk, anyway that old man sure has read more sekret documents


Fun fact that export section seems to be nuked now

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and the same would go for the IRBIS-E(xport) as well

so that is a pointless argument

and then again in the same video that old man specifies that the Su-30SM2 will recive the same engine as the Su-35

so why not say that it has the same radar?

ontop of that in that video they show the 30SM2 production line,
and this is most definetly not an IRBIS but a BARS


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Not sure you get away with that anymore.
Algerias Su-57 has to be as close to Russias as possible. They will not accept missing systems and downgraded performance.

and even then, if it is the case, i was comparing 2 export radars with each other so it dosent matter

For sure it was more we are not in the 70s/80s exporting MiG 23s without RWRs

Yet, for some reason, they chose Al-41F1S over Izd. 177.

The radar and big lobbies ruins it for me.

Eh IM I use to that radar from gold old Su-27 since its my main horsework to grind new additions.

As for lobbies I tend to fly high on certain angles that gives me a chance to isolate my target and myself most of the time so its not too much issue for me.

Let’s just say the aircraft is much less efficient than it used to be and rather struggles with it’s competition at times.

The issue, as it is most of the time, is compression.

Should I talisman it?

I already have the 27sm with a talisman, only I miss playing the old Su-27…

I did and not have a single regret.

13.0MM is much sweeter than 13.7 and I was getting constant downtiers during my MiG-29KR grind.

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Not even close.

Both Su-27/33 are still highly competitive aircraft’s at their br, just because they don’t suit your gameplay style doesn’t mean they are not effective even in current mm.

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They suit my style but times have changed and they suffer from compression now.