Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

There’s a study out there that gives the empty weight of mkm as 18400 kg.

Which study?

Also, what’s the empty weight of the 30SM? I remember it being ~18,500 Kg, no?

https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4701/11/9/1453
Su-30sm should be 400 kg heavier at around 18800 kg

That’s odd. I still want to know what’s up with the weight increase.

Yeah, probably got heavier due to extra indigenous capabilities like maybe a better iff interrogator or something.
30sm brochure with empty weight

Spoiler

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I found it in HD, since I can’t read that.

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according to UAC the SME (Not the SM I know, but I can’t find the SM page.) has a higher normal take off weight and lower max take off weight.

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Here is sm brochure

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The suggestion for the Su-30SM has it listed at 17,700kg. (I assume they pulled it from this source, which is second hand.)

Same normal & max take off weight listed as the other Su-30SM brochure

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From a textbook of the practical aerodynamics of the su-30sm from Mai institute (basically a teaching institute) it lists the su-30sm “operational empty weight” as 19710 kg.

Note the speed limits stated are absolute limits and are not practical limits

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Idk what Irkut was on.

But this is just titled Su-30MK, shows and MKM, and gives some values similar to the Su-30SM.

But the normal take off weight is has an extra 1,1090kg. and the max has 500 kg less.

And according to Sukhoi the MK have the same normal and max weight as the SM.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110716144928/http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su30mk/lth/
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important note at the bottom.
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Also according to wikipedia (great source, I know) the MKI is 18,400 kg empty. Same as the MKM.

I can’t find a source for the MKI’s empty weight other than that. :p

Damn, that was a tough fight against MKM.

Bugger pulled last minute cobra pull when he realized he fell into my energy trap, thanks to Stalin’s blessing i survived and killed him.

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do you guys think there ever will be an dedicated electronic warfare flanker for Russia?

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@Saprano_2132 Hey, I know you have that book written by Sukhoi, does it say anything about the weight increase between MKI/MKM and SM?

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Idk if russia has a dedicated EW fighter like the J-16D or EA-18G

But i did find something called the Su-24MP which i guess is in the same class lol

You will use Khibiny and you will like it.

there are huge jammer pods for the su34, that mount on the centerline

i dont have a pic rn, iam gonna look for one tho

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