Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

I don’t like J either.

I only like F4F ICE, Peace Icarus and Super Kurnass ( hopefully Gaijin adds both Icarus and SK someday).

Well, that’s your opinion. At this bracket there’s no other missile that is just universally useful and you can get in a decent quantity. R-23R is worse, R-24R you only have 2, and later sparrows are at 12.0 or above. So, for me this is a goated missile that just works as long as you know how to shoot it reliably
I guess R-40R is a great contender, but it is found on a single airframe in the entire game.

2 gurantee kills while you can easily notch, chaff or even clutter F4E’s radar.

MLD is superior to F4E in almost every way aside from carrying 2 less radar missiles which doesnt make much difference considering it can easily demolish you in every way.

If you’re opponent also knows how to defend himself those missiles becomes trash in second.

Against idiots, maybe. I don’t remember when i got killed by R-24R in regular ARB last time.

That’s why it sits at 11.7 while F-4E sits at 11.3

Then you use this to get into a better position. Unlike R-24R you actually can use Sparrow as a tool because you get twice the amount. Wasting one or 2 to make enemy defend and finish him up with a vulcan is an effective strategy.

played 7E-2 they are indeed goated(at 11.3), only thing holding it back is lack of pd radar

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Oh wow, I thought these never left the paper stage, good find.

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I was wrong about the masses
updated
600-1100 near 15s instead of 13.8
1100-1300 10s instead of 8

That rule applies to E-2 even more.

You do realize your opponent can do the same thing right?

Only in theory.

You’re talking about best case scenario for Phantom while doing the opposite for MLD.

They have limitied range but good pull which makes them quite decent but not goated.

If it was paired with PD radar at 11.3 it would’ve been goated then.

yeah range is kinda on lower side, mainly due to drag, but within 10km (which is what you should be shooting them in front aspect) the energy is more than enough

And yet i have twice the amount at worst, and only one with Fox-1s at best

you do realise that this is obvious, right?

and on practice

Best case scenario for both is to kill an enemy, using Fox-1 as a tool is not the best case scenario for a Phantom, nor for MLD

Bro wants the cake and to eat it too. There is no PD radars at this br range, and even MLD will have to scrub the deck to actually use MTI mode which basically plays into F-4 hands

On a platform that doesnt have Pd radar nor equal flight performance which both directly effects the Sparrows.

Only against dump people like you mentioned.

In any case scenario phantom loose to MLD, this is a fact.

Thats what makes it goated.

Plays into Phantom hands? lol.

MLD shits on phantom on both low/high altitude in any scenario, there is not a single thing that Phantom can do against MLD.

Bro thinks he can actually go toe to toe with equal skilled MLD pilot in F4E.

Sorry no chicken wings here.

Yeah, bro, keep your opinion to yourself and have a nice day. I rather talk to a wall.

Guys.

Tell me the Su-35 is on the horizon.

Please. I can’t take another DCS Codename Flanker YouTube video any longer.

Idc if it’s essentially a single seater Su-30SM2. I need the most beautiful flanker in my lineup. Yesterday.

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Why, because you don’t like the truth?

You cant do anything to MLD in F4E if both pilot has equal skill floor, this is not an opinion but rather fact.

If you don’t wanna accept it then its fine but dont act like any in game Phantom aside from ICE has any chance against MLD on equal terms.

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What changes from the Su-34 NVO to the Su-34?

Most beautiful?

That title belongs to Su-30SM2 and Su-37 comrade.

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Flankers with canard> Canardless Flankers.

wrong and false :3

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I just want a new single seater flanker Im a bit tired of big headed flankers

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