I wait pre-production of Flanker-A, another VKS Flanker on rank 8 (battle rating 13.3 & 14.0) and Naval Flanker
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Basically the same, I run 32 flares and 66 chaff, with the extra dispenser it would amount to a nice and round 80 chaff and 32 flares :)
What naval flankers are there other than Su-33? Also for 14.0 would the Su-27SM3 work? With R-77-1, and while removing the extra pylons of the SM that it shouldn’t have.
For 13.3, I guess Su-30M2? It’s very similar to the MK2 AMV right?
an early Su-33 without RWR
R-77-1 intergration (among other weapons) was one of the main features of the SM3 program, yes.
There was plans for KAB-500S, Kh-59M, R-77-1, R-74M and R-37M but only R-77-1 made it out alive.
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So, with R-77-1 it would be 14.0 ig?
Would be a nice gap filler
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can’t be higher in current compressed matchmaker. But with good ol’ N001 R-77-1 will loose like half of it’s effectiveness.
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Issue is that some of the SM-3 features are already on the current SM, like double rack and (correct me if I am wrong) IIRC engine. Also some of the ground ordinance.
Can be removed from the SM, Gaijin loves to force more grind so it would be a way to push players to grind the SM3.
And tbh I’d support it, I think realism is important
SM3 doesn’t get dual racks, only Su-35S has been seen with dual racks IRL.
However, since the Su-27SM we have in game has dual racks, it brings it’s total missile count up to that of the SM3.
(The SM3 has an extra pylon on the wing like the Su-30SM)
Double rack is a funny thing. Work on it was done as far back as Su-27M development, but in service it was only seen on Su-35S… SM3 however should have additional wing pylons like on Su-30SM.
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Could just give the existing SM those features and call it SM3.
MB on that. Could also just give it the extra pylons with dual racks to boost it at 14.0.
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With gaijin BSing their way into Irbis on Su-30SM2 we could aslo give it to 27SM3 because some rumors say that only first 12 SM3s were equipped with N001 (they were made out of unused airframes of Su-27SKM) and the later ones recieved N035
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Gaijin gimme my N035 MKK pls.
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With photos of MKK with R-77-1 we can technically slap it at 14.3 with Irbis
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Actually no issue with that. I mean ‘technically they are compatible’ right?
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On a note of how even the smallest changes might impact an airframe. Increasing the amount of countermeasures led to the increased size of tail fin on Su-27. This, in return, reduced effective thrust and reduced flight distance on cruising speed by around 87 kilometers. To compensate this fuel tanks had to be filled with additional 200kg of fuel. Alternative was offered by brigade 100-3 with reduced fuel tank in the tail and placement of CM dispencers there. Flight range would be reduced by about the same distance, but the weight would also be reduced by 200kg
Thick and thin fin in comparison
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But then there would be no 13.7 Flanker though…
hear me out, Su-27S to 13.7. R-27ER op pls nerf and Flankers are “certified baby plane flight model” so we can just put it there
Su-27S? Do you mean the one named Su-27 in-game (but in fact a Su-27S) or do you mean SM but made a typo?