exactly, the only real problem is the 7° half-sens on mica,
turns it into a baby plane that can kill every veteran, MICA is the only missile that has more kill windows against veterans and top performance players because of an advantage that makes no sense for it alone to have
Yes ? He said that base r77 is not compatible in su57 chart.
And you still can see on this chart that Izd 170-1 (R-77-1) is only placed on external pylons
And what is izd 180 ?
Mythical derivative of R-37M in development specifically for Su-57. Only rumours are available. No, wait, that 810. Izd 180 is medium range air to air missile, most likely R-77M
Ok so were getting somewhere.
180 is 77m.
Who is same size of base 77-1 and only a bit longer.
Quite longer, new fins, possibly new seeker, new propulsion method.
Dog, this shit specifically says that 77-1 is only placed on external pylons. What you are saying is pure assumptions that have nothing outside of “they have similar dimensions”
Wdym?
Nah jsut found it amusing
Not assumption.
You cant say that this plane who is made in 2013 and so on is only compatible with a missile that was prob made in 2024.
Thats just impossible that the 57 cant have 77-1 in the belly compartment.
There is no source yes. If you want based source. You have to wait.
It is compatible, just can’t carry it internally. And it is entirely possible due to a simple fact that folding fins on R-77 were dropped due to low reliability as well as the fact that Su-57 gets pretty much completely new arsenal of weapons for internal carry like RVV-MD2 and Kh-58USHKE
A plane that is suppose to be advance and air superiority can only do strikes in stealth mode
Got it
Wdym only strikes? R-77M was seen and even used by Russia (albeit from Su-35)
Well i am doing like your doing.
Not seen .
Not real.
Only assumption
So if missile designed for the aircraft exists, aircraft itself exists, but they never been seen together means that there is no proof? C’mon, calm down, you’re just being salty because there are no substantial proofs to your claim. It’s not a competition, if some evidence supporting your claim will surface eventually - I would be more than happy to admit that I was wrong. But for know all we know points to the fact that Su-57 can only carry R-77M internally as a A2A weapon
There no proof of the 77m also.
Only seen outside.
So your situation is no different from 77-1.
Also no source about the 77 cant be used with folding fins.
Provide some
I have at least a photo posted above, you don’t have even that.
About that you might be right.
here is the R-77 folding mechanism
Foldable fins so that you can pack it in your holiday bag and take it on a commercial airliner🙏🏻
