Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

At 14.0 you would still face 13.3 hordes a lot

But you are loosing half of the matchmaker because 12.7 is a no-facto anymore, and 13.0 is limited to 4 jets. On the other hand you also become more desirable for full uptiers to 14.3-14.7 being higher priority than 13.7 jet to be placed there

its not because of the temp of the engines its because the lose any control through the control surfaces

let me find the source real quick

If you are talking about MiG-25 it’s from an interview with designer and test pilots i think

iam talking about the flanker

i just need to find the right part in a 80 page document thats in russian, while iam not speaking it

One day we will make TVC capable of working at such speeds so control surfaces won’t matter as much

“if it tested it it can get it”

thats the reason why the rafale has 8 missiles and a hmd

Well, yeah, but those engines weren’t tested for this airframe. Airframe was just used to test the engine itself. It is a bit of a different situation than with Rafale.

not really the hmd and missiles werent tested for the rafale f3 either

but rather for the export models

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the doc iam talking about is for the su30sm

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By this stretch we can give N010 to MiG-29 because MiG-29 9.13 (N 916) was used for the tests. We can also give 9.12 MiG-29 RD-33Ks because they were tested on N 921. We can give Su-27S AL-31F-M1 with TVC because they were tested on it and so on…

theoretically yes

practically no

because gaijin is hypocritical af

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China getting Irbis at 13.3 on a premium

@GitGood @kizvy

found it


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PH is the rudder
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thats the reason why the flankers are limited to 1400 kph and not the engines

Small correction.

HMD was tested on domestic Rafale F3, only additional MICA’s are tested on export airframes and starting with F4 all Rafale models has additional pylons for missiles and HMD.

No, additionnal mica were also tested on an f3r and showed on a DGA/Dassault stand…

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Additional MICA’s was tested for export sales initially iirc, might be wrong tho.

Maybe, but it was also tested on a french airframe.

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So it technically shouldn’t rip wings but instead compress like hell

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yes

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