Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

You joking?

Why would I joke? This is an Su-27 thread. Discussion of other bum-mobiles can go somewhere else.

What you said has nothing to do with Matrix being off-topic, that’s a whole other topic that I agree on.

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hey man, its slaps hard.
best dogfighter in 13.3 i swear.
@kizvy you might need check man its really doing fast pull like you in cobra mode but your not.

i can easy dogfight a f18 in low speed like crazy
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Hahaha oh man I’m SO glad I didn’t spend any money on the F18C, seems like a gigantic turd of a jet to me, basically food for 13.0/13.3’s.

Yeah Ik what i’m buying when my next paycheck clears ^^ that agility looks awesome, probably so much easier to notch in that than in the kfirc10 too

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Gaijin probably gonna say “it’s close enuff” and call it a day.

That I’m not so sure.

At 13.3 you will face JAS39A, F-16ADF/MLU which are better than you at dogfighting, Su-30MKK’s biggest advantages are Pl-12/R73 combo in that br.


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Is that the Chinese Su30? What kind of missile loadouts do people bring with it?

I do PL-12s and R-73s. Sometimes I bring R-27ERs, but usually it’s just R-73s & PL-12s.

Yeah I feel like that works best, I still miss the R-73s in J-11B.

I almost have the J-11B. Really looking forward to the upgraded radar and airframe.

It’s quite nice even in this meta, way better than even the J-10C for me since the kinetic performance and extra CMs are livesavers against the revived AMRAAM spam.

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I wasn’t planning to get the J-10C for a while, not until it gets the WS-10B.

Well these cant get close to dogfight me. Plus pl8 are my new way as i do bvr, i tend to dive and launch pl8 on the one that cant see me.

6km shots are easy for pl8

They easily can get close to you, during my JAS39E grind i used my talismaned JAS39A and killed multiple Premium SU-30’s by simply closing the distance and force them to dogfight.

Experienced player can easily notch or multipath your Fox-3 missiles and forces you to dogfight in their Gripen/F-16 which both of them beats SU-30 in dogfight easily.

Depend on how both player react.

Your only option is to force them to defend agaisnt your fox-3 missiles, in other cases both JAS39/F-16 are superior to you in most ways, if both players are equally experienced then JAS39/F-16 will eventually beat you by forcing you into 1vs1.

I’ve seen this scenario countless times.

Then we’ll have to wait until i go against them.

does anyone feel that the su30mkk radar is limited to 50km detection no matter what i try ?