Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

So it became closer to what is supposed to be then, good to know

Indeed no Gripen/Rafale ufo behaviour/s

Its closer to rl apperently

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As long as it’s more accurate it’s better, the target of the report was the low speed performance afterall, be that way.

The UFO cope was mega overreaction lmao.

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Just as usual, whenever anything Russian gets buffed you will get a massive wave of tears

@ILuvAnneHathaway

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Oh I totally missed this, thought it was still the 1st buff, much appreciated.

i hope gaijin won’t just call it a day on this and work on low speed performance more so it will be closer to what bug report claims it to be

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Give it another few years.

It still annoys me how terrible the Flanker FM has been for so long.

When Gripen E was nerfed people joked about “fastest call to Kremlin”. Now Flanker was too good for like a day? And there is silence.

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even if they are for the RWR, then i would still think that they only have a ±30° coverage
so there would still be blindspots

What i actually wonder is what upgrades other than the radar & its ability to use R-37ms, exist.
Because pilots or videos state that it has newer avionics, what could that be. Inside mostly looks the same, maybe connection with other platforms?

That thing could be an indication of something new, not rwr maybe.

could be a new fire control system and computers in general, which all are also part of the avionics

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I don’t think most people even noticed the current buffs from the beginning.

Its most likely Gaijin realized they buffed the wrong section and decided to revert it while not fixing the wrong part…

Typical Gaijin behavior.

Not really the first buffed Maneuverability
While the Nerf added drag

Thats the interesting part its an 2010 upgrade

But sadly Russia is also known of being an extreme cheapskate at times

Looking at you t90a

So would not be surprised if they keept the bad rwr

why did they nerf ITR at all speeds wasn’t it already under performing especially at low speeds and it got nerfed again ?

they didnt nerf the low speed performance, they added drag so it performs worse at high speed

below 900 it still performs better than pre buff across the board

The graph you have from the Soviet report has calculated performance figures, so it cannot be taken too seriously.

As a fan of EF 2000, I have to politely disagree. I think that the combination of radar, avionics, and armament, together with the very powerful EJ200 engines and the Typhoon’s supersonic performance, will be very difficult to beat

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su-57 has basically better everything. faster, more radars, stealth, weapons are debatable since we don’t know performance of r-77m (though minimum of 160km aint bad)… and its not even su-57m