Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

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i lied, just double checked, the ones on mkm is laser ranging only. only 30mkk and mk2 can illuminate

:b everything normal here

If everything is overperforming, then everything is balanced, that being said, let the f15 overperform too
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That’d make more sense, so they probably both have OEPS-27MK or whatever MK2 uses.

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Gaijin holding the F-15 buffs back until the F-15B ACTIVE premium 3D model is finished)))))

(Please ignore how the 3D model is literally already in the game rn, all they need to do is fair over the gun port and copypasta F/A-18 stabilators over)

backwards calculations for empty weight, from su-35 website
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rvv-ae is 175 kg, r-73e is 105 kg.


max fuel is 11500 kg, normal weight is half that. so its 5750.
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so take off weight minus all that (25300 - (5750 + (2)(175)+(2)(105)) = 18990kg
~ 19 tons. Though, that includes oil, pilot weight, ammo, etc etc. So it would actually be slightly less than ~19 tons.
I would assume its without wing tip pods, as it doesn’t list them and wing span is 14.7m.
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This lines up with the pilot interview that stated 19 tons empty. I would bet gaijin models it in game at around 18800 ish kg.

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Im also curious how gaijins going to model it because it has differences that seem subtle, but actually aren’t



gaijin wont model them besides the airbreak maybe

just the same ammount of effort they put in for the Su-30SM on release

is that diagram overlaying the su-27 and su-35 correct? irl they have the same wingspan

wikipedia says

Su-27 wingspan: 14.7 meters

Su-27M wingspan: 14.7 meters

Su-35S wingspan: 15.3 meters

its still wikipedia, but worth looking into

Su-35 modernized one wing span is 14.7 m.
Straight off KNAPPO website

https://web.archive.org/web/20220112183103/http://knaaz.org/products/su-35/

maybe the 15.3 meters is with the jamming pods?

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Yeah probably

Not overshooting is a skill issue.

Anyone can lose to anyone; the F-16 was proven to be “shot down” by the Phantom. It’s not so much about the aircraft and tables, it’s about the pilots. Specifically, dogfighting is like a sport that teaches pilots many things, such as quick and correct decision-making under pressure, situational awareness, etc. And this carries over into BVR scenarios.
I’m not at all surprised that the Rafale defeated the F-22 in a dogfight; in fact, the Rafale often defeats the F-22, just as the F-22 often defeats the Rafale.

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I was comparing with real life photos and at least the wings dont seem right

Since L-005 (Others are likely around the same figure) is about ~0.6m in width, I’d say it’s likely.

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Bro, the new Flanker flight model is fucking awesome, wtf

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