Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Why would you need to switch to IRST mode to fire the missile?

Also in real life the 36T seeker on the R-27T/ET supposedly has a lock range of 16-18 km head on and 60-70 km tail on against an F-15.

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IRST would lock it on to the particular target. If that seeker has that range surely any other ambient heat sources would attract the seeker. We have a group of 4 F-15s and you shoot that missile there is no guarantee over 70km it would hit the one you have shot it at? And if you have friendlies in the area how do you prevent it from going after another Flanker in front of your target?

Again in DCS you use/can use the IRST system to queue the R-27ET

As would the radar (which he was using). All the IRST does is give the seeker an azimuth & elevation angle to point at before launch. The radar can provide that same information.

Not really sure what you are trying to argue here? Multiple primary sources state those are the lock ranges. And the the missile will run out of energy way before it reaches a 70 km rear aspect target anyway, so it’s kind of academic.

Same goes for literally any other IR missile?

you can use the IRST in dcs to queue the r27r/er

So in game this system is modelled with LOAL?
Does it have a DL? Whats to stop the target moving out of the seeker gimble over these kind of distances?

What range does the IRCCM kick in at?

It can

because it is an IR missile

the r27et dosent have loal
and the r27er also only does it in a hacky way

the only reason why you would have to use the radar or irst irl to launch it is so that you can use the full range of the missile

bc i doubt that you can make out a target at 30km with your eyes

an IRST cant IFF either

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max launch range is 52.5 km according to su27sk manual for r27et.

feels so wrong playing su-30 on blueside for sim lol

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Well, one day there will be MKI as well, in one shape or another. Or MKA, seems like a pretty easy copy-paste vehicle to add

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You know what forget the JAS39E, SU30SM2 here i come.

Jokes aside SU-27 still slaps hard.

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Good old Su-27, never leaves my hangar

Spoiler

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Slaps the fusalage: This Bad boy can get you kills from 50km with ez.

I’ve been constantly getting kills from 40-50km’s in last two days with ER’s.

God I love slapping Iranian Tomcats from 50km’s especially when they got so cocky and fly straight after spamming those fakours.

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For me its the su27sm, r77 has been good for 50km bvr. Its just that sometimes the uptiers is just pure pain

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Personally i prefer ER over regular R-77, sometimes over 77-1 as well.

Having such a big missile with insane speed,range and quite good agility alongside with hard lock gives you insane BVR capabilities, especially at 12.7-13.7.

The Iranian F-14 has an RWR from the 50s
It is terrible it also lacks a single all aspect missile with an Aim9P…yes a 9.7 air to air missile as it’s IR option.

But it has Fakours and they were good once so now it faces Su-27/33/30 and F/A 18s and is absolute food

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They are constantly getting kills thanks to those fakours and incompetent players, not to mention for some reason fakours only gives you warning around 8-10km instead of 16 which gives you much less time to notch if you’re at high altitude.

Not to mention it shouldn’t be able to use R27R in the first place.

Anyway I personally hate Iranian Tomcat users so I especially hunt them if they are on the other side.

so far the general opinion on the N-035 is…
that its actual garbage at maintaining both tws and tts.
any of you found a workaround yet? and is someone working on a report?

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Fakours are easy to notch and the SU and F/A-18s have excellent RWRs.

The jet is functionally dead at it’s current BR

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