Russia doesn’t have an AESA fighter either
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PESA pretty much works the same as AESA in War Thunder. They’re even classified the same in X-ray. If it was accurate, the AESA radars would be able to heavily jam the PESA mounted on russian fighters, especially since PESA have predictable emissions while AESA changes frequency pulse-to-pulse, making AESA extremely hard to jam.
Furthermore, AESA are still missing their LPI mode, which would make them virtually invisible on RWR.
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I support adding this feature, if it is true
Then your original comment will be relevant when these features are added. As of right now, Russian radars in WT function like AESA.
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The AESA passively intercepts the PESA’s emissions. It measures frequency, pulse repetition frequency (PRF), beam timing, scan pattern. PESA radars emit high-power, predictable signals, making them easy to characterize.
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The AESA injects tailored interference. Instead of blasting noise everywhere, the AESA focuses energy only toward the PESA. It matches the PESA’s frequency and timing and uses coherent jamming on it.
This creates wrong range, wrong speed, and multiple ghost aircraft
PESA struggles big time here because it cannot change waveforms fast enough like an AESA can and its tracking filters assume stable returns. A PESA radar has no solution against AESA, only mitigation like shorter range to brute force through the jamming or datalink,
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You clearly have no idea.
On original dev it was limited to six total missiles, had a hilariously crap FM and the chaff wasn’t even modeled. It was not good on dev server. It was decent on release with 8 missiles but MICA was using the standard seeker and the FM was below the EF2000 at 95% of flight regimes. Only after the MICA seeker change and high speed buff did the Rafale become actually broken.
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Rafale maintained it a for a year and never got that spotlight, Ive heard terms like “busted” “Op” in an instant when youtubers or content creators or forum thread dwellers talking 30sm2. You guys never pushed the community managers to respond about any nato performing extremely well. Because anything nato performing well wether its breaking the damn game, because “accuracy”
Soon as a russian vic comes? Everyone asking devs to monitor performance eh?? Isnt it funny guys? We need a BR raise too(instantly people are pestering CMs about rank 9 or 15.0)
You know whats funny? People were comparing su30sm to J-11B on release. Saying su30sm is DOA, and for the next several months of the 30sm’s time in the game, people saw it as nothing but pretty much a missile boat. So when the devs give a jet like JUST engine upgrades, and a radar that can look past 90 degrees, whilst even other nations received such radars(uk,italy,Sweden) it became an issue. I mean gaijin set precedence on it, i never thought it would be a thing but here we are, but on top of that getting more missiles for most nations, everyone got atleast 2x more arh to the US mains getting 4x arh for their F-15s. And yet we only received an engine overhaul that makes simply go decently fast with our 18.8 Tonne jet lol. In a dogfight flankers still lack any lift or the speed bleed is insane to the point you suffer with the automatic thrust vectoring you can turn off.
On top of that we dont have 360° rwr, we have no maws, we also dont have the insane CM that almost every nation has. Yet, just cuz of one mechanic which is not even that op, you guys freak out instantly because its russia and you guys cant see pass the bigger picture.
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Yep, the fm was super cracked for most 4th gen fighters in the game. A little under of the eft, but nothing at all bad. 21 G performance in terms of full and great recovery after maneuvers were done. Mica an exceptional missile with 50Gs, excellent kinematic performance and thrust vectoring already dominating the notch-notch type of games we en counter in rb. It was already fine
Yet 9Js couldn’t lock as reliably neither could 9Ds
The Rafale and MICA have both rightfully been the main target of complaints for the past year or so when talking about top tier air. Russia is mostly targeted in top tier ground because of the fake KH-38, dubious damage models, and more recently OP LMUR.
But clearly, you haven’t been paying attention if you didn’t see all the constant complaints about the Rafale.
No Gaijin padded the Su-30 it received more missiles because it was falling behind well now it has the 2nd best overall FM, the best Payload in all game modes, the best Radar despite it being PESA.
And now what is happening well it’s the meta jet, not because it’s good IRL or in terms of realism but because Gaijin have just thrown so much stuff at it.
We are at a point now where anytime any jet merges with a Su-30 you automatically lose and you lose because if you are in a jet with 9Ms and 120s you cannot use your missiles.
It’s time for a 120/MICA/PL-12 buff and whatever other none R-77-1 we have left out. It’s also time to start receiving their HOB IR missiles. Imagine that F-15 you are bullying could crack off a 9X or a Typhoon could use an IRIS-T/ASRAAM. These jets are purposely being held in these states to allow Su-30 to dominate.
Sooner or later these systems will have to come to the game and while Russia is behind on IIR development that should not stifle other nations from being competitive.
Lmao? The plane is still a boat. Have you played the 30sm/30sm2 in a dogfight? Gripen/F-2/Eurfoighter/J-10/rafale all will still beat in a dogfight, if you cant flare a R-73 thats your issue lol. Also the pesa has its limitations in game as well, there are certain stabilized zones where past that the targets dont not get updated. For 30sm its 90x81 and 30sm2 its 120x81 even thats inaccurate and bug reports have went up for it. While aesa jets do not have such a problem, and their targets will updated on the extreme gimbal limits without having to move the radar dish to the sides. Pesas do not have such a thing, and have a limited update gimbal. And the su30sm received no buffs either the entire time. You simply are waffling about it and it did not destroy balance like rafale or eurofighter did
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Cant flare a simple gatewidth R-73 IRCCM, and instantly complains about tvc missiles, forgets mica is a 50G vs R-73 40G tvc missile and is even more insane.
And now wants these long range IIR missiles will not be breaking game balance eh? The hypocrisy but go for it, my ER knows no bounds
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AESA scan speed has been limited because Gaijin do not believe it is real or in other words it would be better than Russias best Radar the IRBIS. Can flare an R-73 cannot flare 4 of them and 6 R-77-1 or even an R-27ER used in dogfight range.
You don’t keep up to date but even scroll up here and Su-30s are clowning on Gripens/Rafales and Typhoons in BVR and Close range.
Su-30 has received tonnes of buffs, additional missiles being the huge one and a brand new missile that was better than the 120C in every metric, Gaijin somehow think the 120C is worse at closer ranges than the A and B because it has shorter fins?
Unflarable, have you not seen how Gaijin have modelled the IRIS-T and 9X very much flarable.
Well R-27ER is also a massively overperforming joke in game the undefeatable missile, cannot be chaffed, cannot be kinematically defeated and MP is the only way to sometimes beat them.
And every nation with no MICA/R-77-1 equivalent should just stay in a perpetual state of imbalance because IIR missiles are scary?
Israel was one of the first tech trees to recive an aesa fighter
the Kifir C10
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Low speed 1v1 dogfights are rarely top tier relevant lol
Top tier AESA fighter*, preferably tech tree. Here, better?
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this is not true, TWS ESA works the same on all planes that have it
My guy, i play Russia and was active on the update, I was the dudes clowning all these guys, but i know the weaknesses of my jet far more better than most here, Competitive players from tournaments also know the limitations of the R73/r77-1/ERs they are not dogfighting missiles.
And even a suggestion moderator has already cleared up the confusion about “AESA SHOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN PESA” with the ingame mechanics we have.
it didnt lmao. show me the buffs.
Me when SLM was the reasoning russia lost its winrate in June. its quite unflareable. ER overpeforming? go bug report if u think thats the case.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jQbqRSN9ocDh
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xLW4uCSdUIm7
please properly read the bug reports, It can give u a clear understanding what i was referring to. Pesa have a slightly different mechanic