Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Lol there goes the will to grind it.

Irbis max range for 3m^2 target is 350-400 km head on while bars is 110-150 km head on for same target size

Because its a 20 year old radar and no one wants to buy them anymore, and their it’s specs are well known from being exported.

Also. There is no radar between the N011M and the N035 (Irbis-E). If they upgraded the N011M radar (the radar used on the Su-30SM), then they are using the Irbis-E. It is the only option.

Keep coping though

What? You do know they upgraded bars m over time already right? Just look at old brochures for bars and newer ones for bars. They upgraded it over time.
They just put an even more upgraded bars into su-30sm2

I cannot easily find these brochures, I do not speak Russian.

that and than there is also that the Su-30SM2 do´sent use the same radome as the Su-35, which has the IRBIS

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Yeah, su-35 radome pretty fat while su-30sm2 is still slightly skinnier than it

Looks the same to me

AFAIK the ring which rotates nozzles is covered in AL-41, but after thinking yee it’s almost impossible to tell the difference from distance

Yeah I was trying to tell them apart as well and came to the same conclusion.

I love how even the ID marks are identical, they just took the SM and lowered brightness

Su-35:
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Su-30:

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They’re correct in the fact that the serial ones haven’t been fitted with the 41F-1S yet, but the SM2 has been tested with those and they would give the plane an actual reason to exist in-game. So yes, but actually no

If that bug report got closed I doubt they are even considering it.

Just gonna be some copypaste slop like almost all the jets of this patch.

Yeah I honestly cannot tell if there is a difference. They don’t look exactly the same, but they do look extremely similar.

Does “subject to change” mean nothing to you?

It’s a placeholder.

Just gonna post this here rq to respond to someone on my bug report (phone I can’t copy and paste images on the community bug reporting site for some reason)

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Nothing proves that they weren’t assembled with them.

The report management is so much of a joke that I don’t even consider any worthy of use for even guessing. They could add the 41 tomorrow or they could add it never

the Su-35 dosent have the peto-tube at the front of the radome to measure airspeed

the Su-35 radome also goes straight for longer until it starts goint together into a single point
because the IRBIS needs alot of space to be able to move around in there
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for visualisation:
not to scale or anything, just so you get the idea
red - Su-35 and Blue Su-30
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