Information is limited for the system, found this
Yeah and PIRATE but they refuse it for now, shame really not having to use Typhoons Radar at all seems very appealing!
One cool thing about the Su-35 is it can guide 2 R-27ERs at the same time at 2 separate targets.
Any jet with datalink, fox 3 with datalink, and a rangine IRST should be able to do this, this can be su27sm, su30sm, su35, rafale, eurofighter. The point of guiding missiles through datalink (midcourse correction) is to give it updates regarding target location till its close enough to lock on to it with its own radar. However, its likely only possible with fox 3 and fox 2 equipped with datalink, probably not fox 1
i think there are DL equiped IR missiles
rn only the IRIS-T SLM comes to my mind tho, which is a ground based system and not an air-to-air one
oops, i confused fox 1 and fox 2, edited it
i heard that the r-27 can be guided via DL until it is close to the target and then you have to hardlock the target
Does anyone here know if there is any actual proof the SU30 can carry KH38 variants irl?
FB-10A also suppose to be DL+IR. As airborne, it rumored that R-74M2 (or how they named it, the short-range missile for Su-57) have it
Doesn’t the pylon make it possible?
Probably, but thats not usually how gaijin adds weapons.
Considering it said interaction with the targeting and guidance complex it seems to be able to do so, since N001 and RLPK27 they’ve always been integrated although at that point they didn’t have datalink.
From what I’ve seen only mig 29m/35, su35 and su34 can carry kh38, never seen one on a su30
Launching yes
Guiding purely with IRST, no
You would need to slave the radar to the IRST to send datalink updates (which would result in radar pings on the enemy’s RWR)
But, it would make it easier to launch on e.g. IRST HMD locks without having to transfer the lock to radar …
Or to launch on IRST tracks without slaving the radar to send datalink updates (And relying on INS only until active range).
even if the R-27ER is the “fastest accelerating missile”, which I doubt since I think the R-77-1 is faster accelerating at least from my experience.
Yes and no.
The R-27ER accelerates faster for the first stage
157.93 ms² at the start of the booster, for 3.2 seconds
93.11 ms² at the start of the sustainer, for 4.8 seconds
The R-77-1 is somewhere in the middle,
128.16 ms² at the start of its 1 stage motor, for 7 seconds

you know that the 27ea would be more balanced because flankers cant carry as many of them and they are even heavier
What?
Right, it’s not like flankers can still use r27ea on literally every pylon other than the double racks…
Does anyone here know if the Upgraded SU-33 actually exists?
It was supposed to, there were plans to put either the N010MF or N031 into the Su-33. The eventual Su-33UB used the 010MF when it was first tested in '99, with the N031 coming into the picture in '03 before it was abandoned.
Both of these would have been capable of utilizing the R-27EA… Which the 001K was incapable of using.
The one with the R-27EM and Su-30SM2-like avionics?
What?
What iam saying is, that the r27ea would obviously not be able to be carried on the double pylons on the belly while being heavier than the r-77-1, so you will have a bigger flight performance impact
Trash update… No Su-35s. And Murica get Aim-120c5. Yea that it why i was against R-77-1.