Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

but holy sht gaijin is kinda dumb istead of adding the aircraft with its realistic loadouts (su35) they added sht variants of the flanker n gave it su35’s loadouts to compensate for its sht performance - this only led to more fake loadouts.

Evidently, as I said earlier, gaijin just doesn’t care and will add fictional weapons wherever they want.

It’s only a problem when I actually ask for it to be added to a nation which is terrible for jet CAS at top tier

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they will probably save kh38s for the chinese su35.

Will likely be DOA by then, and would also mean we would have to wait more for something that could logically come tomorrow

how is the su35 DOA ? it will probably be better than j15/16 with how the game works atm (no ecm/minor difference between pesa/aesa radar)

The missile not the aircraft 😐

Russia’s best CAS missile for a while was the KH-29TE, when China finally got it with J-11B, it was long DOA since better AGMs had been added

u think kh38s will be doa in 3 months ? wtf even if they add better missiles for nato it will be on par better than kh38s but that wont make it doa lol. u can argue that they will make sams better but we already have modern sams for pretty much every tt do u think kh38s are already doa lol ?

Problem is that there are 2 very different versions of MK airframes with completely different avionics and FCS. MKI, MKA, MKM and SM, and another one is MKK, MK2 and M2

The sources gaijin use don’t specify mate

is MK2 more modern than MKK ? if so then i dont think they will give it kh38s.

I am glad that they don’t specify, but then where is KH-38 for Su-27SM? It has same avionics as MK2 and M2

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Su-30MK2, MKK and MKM were all designed, built and delivered long before the KH-38 was designed or exported.

No operators of any of those 3 have ever tested, procured or operated KH-38 and lack the necessary FCS to launch it.

However, Gaijin believes the Su-30MKM can fire it through ‘technical compatability’ because sources about KH38 state it can be fired by Su-30MK- series aircraft, not specifying which (as far as gaijin’s concerned) is grounds for addition to all Su-30s besides MK2 because giving premiums the best A-G munition in game isn’t sensible.

To wrap this up, I am not arguing that it’s possible or realistic irl, simply using Gaijin’s logic and grounds for addition for the MKM, to say that the MKK (which could fill the massive top tier CAS deficiency for China) should also receive the missile upon addition.

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You are wrong about gaijin logic. By gaijin logic MKM is a derivative of SM that has Kh-38 and MKK is a derivative of MK2 that doesn’t have Kh-38. It’s not that deep

Wrong way round, the last MKM was delivered in 2009, before the Su-30SM was built.

So it shouldn’t matter to you then should it

SM was added first in WT, gaijin making MKM from SM assets. We are talking about gaijin logic, not how it is irl.

What’s that even suppose to mean?

The phrase ‘it’s not that deep’ come with the connotation that people shouldn’t care about the obvious double standards, I could choose to not care, keep playing my 23ML and grind the Su-30sm for them, but I’d like the gap present in chinese top tier for over 2 years to be filled with something slightly good for once, not more GPS bombs and outdated russian AGMs

I used this phrase to say that gaijin logic is a lot less complicated than you are implying. MKM=SM=KH-38, MKK=MK2=no Kh-38z

Then ask for some domestic Chinese weapons maybe? Don’t tell me that China has nothing to fill that gap with.

Gaijin chose to model the domestic AGMs about a year ago when J-10A was added, but instead chose to let them gather dust in the files while leaving literally nothing besides mediocre GPS bombs or outdated russian missiles in small quantities.

I’ve given up hope asking for them to add domestic stuff, as i did with Spice given it took them 2 years longer than necessary to add those.

China will get Kh-38 next year anyway, with the addition of Su-35, just like US

MKM is a derivative of SU-30MKI , SU-30SM is also a derivative of SU30MKI , MKK/MK2 is not a derivative of SU30MKI. su-30sm/su30mkm/su30mki these 3 share the same radar.