Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

There are multiple reasons, but mica is one of them, yeah

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Not that rare, especially after contrails moved up and Su-30 got 5% thrust buff. And this F-15 behavior isn’t something rare as well, Eagles are one of the most bullied jets at top tier because majority of F-15 players are a definition of a “US main” meme

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fairly rare in my experience, most su30 that try to bvr typically shoot at around mach 1.2/3 in my experience, and that high, and to be fair, the f15e is a plane without any claws i can see why the people playing it arent the best perfoming.

“Aren’t the best performing” and flying straight collecting Fox-3s with their face are quite different grades of quality, don’t you think? Sure F-15E is not hard meta anymore (thank god), but it isn’t as hopeless to justify zomber behavior

What? After the Gaijin removed that 5000-meter condensation mark, I only fly at 7500 to 8200 meters, rare? Dude, where have you been? The number of Su-30SM and Su-27SM flying high now is immense, they reach 7500 or even 8000 meters quickly, obviously not as fast as Eurofighters etc., but at 40km you can fire with a considerable hit rate, and remember that the R77-1 still has the best acceleration in the game, I think.


How I do it: well, I climb at a 10-degree angle. The Su-30SM will always reach 7000 or 7500 at Mach 1.3. At 40km I fire. If I see an F-15E or Eurofighter at 30-35km I fire too. Of course, the chances are around 30%, maximum 35% of certainty. Even F-15E players generally don’t expect to be met by an R77 while flying straight and high to make spamraam, and ignore the RWR for a few seconds. Now you take all that and add it all up: Mach 1.3, the R77-1 with the best acceleration in the game will quickly cover the first 20km, and a player who decides to ignore its RWR for 6-9 seconds will be shot down. That’s why it became the second best plane in the game, behind that stupid French thing.

This change in the condensation trail changed a lot; the R77 fired at 7000 meters altitude at 20km became lethal, and considering how much the meta has changed and the gameplay, the current gameplay in matches has greatly benefited the Su-30SM and the Su-27SM, by far the best 13.7 (what was once humiliated is now the best, incredible).

been doing bvr with the su30sm since day one, always lethal, no worse than any aim120.

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The problem was that before, he couldn’t arrive in time at those heights because everyone showed up at the airfield, and that damned trail was basically a (look, shoot me, I’m here)

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Weird question but what Pylons do you guys like to bring 27E’s on in Fox-3 Flankers, if you bring them at all? (Mainly for taking photos)
Personally I like to bring a few ERs under the engines since I think those look the best.

I only ever bring ETs, not ERs

i prefer to have some ER in case in a super 50-70km launch, sometimes with mig29smt and sometime with the su27sm

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I always bring 2 ETs, sometimes as well I bring 2 extra ERs when I play the Su-30SM

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So far it’s currently best BVR toptier ARH

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Yeah, that ain’t happening

Don’t do that, don’t give me hope…

if the dev server is still this weak then that means we will have the teser today

we just gonna wait and see

i wont stop coping tho

I mean the Su isn’t happening

i gave cope not hope

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