Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

I’d say the su30 might still hold its own, but never too sure before the dev opens.

For now the J-10C (mainly because pf PL-15) and Rafale are gonna be the top contenders, Eurofighters are getting an insane AESA, but the missile kit is still not the greatest.

Can’t speak on the Jas39E as I dunno what that brings to the table.

I just want blue side su-30mki for derby, mica, r27er and r-77/1 for top tier blue side. Entire reason why I’m grinding out Britain currently.
And then eventually su-30mki will become third best flanker in the game due to super sukhoi upgrade

Honestly, I don’t know the reason. It’s basically the best time to get it; the Su-30SM is very good and will continue to do the job, but I still wanted my second favorite flanker. Anyway, we’ll probably find out tomorrow if the trailer isn’t delayed.

not to forget the op french hammer bomb who dominate cas now with the rafale/m2000d

Surely no su35 means that Kizvy’s report for the 77 get implemented right?

Actually no it’s probably gonna be the mica report that dropped today.

Currently the second best in the game, but if we actually have J10C with PL15, and depending on the Eurofighter’s performance, it could drop to 3rd or 4th place among the best.
What keeps the Su-30 competitive is its very good situational awareness, even with blind spots, and the fact that the R77-1 is extremely good at all tasks; perhaps it only needs an improvement in FM and TVC, i love Su30s this jet is beautiful my favorite plane

pl15 ? that like r77m and aim120d performance, why even mention it. the game dont even have ecm

Because pl-15 was leaked for next update

or maybe just put in the list so it sound like guess liste and not leak

I didn’t say maybe it will come, it was leaked, if it does, China will dominate first, Mica second, and R77-1 third, unless Gsijin is planning Meteor R77M AIM120DS.

I didn’t see what the report about R77 and Mica was about?

Mica is underperforming in range (should be doubled) and also underperforming in acceleration and turn rate (underperforming by around 80ish percent for turn rate ) (though the source for mica acceleration gaijin thinks is classified even though it’s from a library or something)

not so sure, even if its added
only EFT and su35/j16 will be the top dog, missile count with 6 meteor and 8 r77m/pl15, while everyone strugle with only 4 or less

For balance reasons, the right thing to do would be to give Mica his acceleration range and remove Seeker buff, even if history is undone, I think.

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Me personally I think fox 3s should stay the same they all are currently unless they all get buffed at the same time rather than only one fox 3 be buffed at a time (other than aim 120 that thing is garbage and needs buffs immediately).
And revert the mica to be in line with other fox 3s

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I can’t say either, to be honest I was expecting a bit more from this update, but I’ll only draw conclusions after the trailer or the dev stream.

It would be better to buff everyone; Mica gains her range and keeps her Seeker buff, but the others also get buffs. However, that would be too extreme, let’s say, and would change everything. Nobody would stay close to each other out of fear. Maps like Pyrenees would start to be loved; I like it. Or maybe we leave it as it is and Gaijin starts preparing for next-generation missiles. If these next-generation missiles arrive with or near the 5th generation, it will be a mess for the player base to get used to.

Flight perfomance demon.

But in current rafailure state it still could be stronger tbh

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i mean 1.5 mach at 8k meters in a su30sm is extremely rare to see in matches, and the r-77-1 is no worse than a aim120a at those ranges.

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mica is just that good lol