Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

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Rather curiously, with Su-34E they left Kh-59M out…

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Probably because of how old it is, they have better alternatives now (tho not listed in there)

What is this? Or is it a bunch of nothing burger changes

@gszabi99 enlighten us

is that a buff? impossible.

Well, only UAC weapons charts that we have are for Su-34E.

Even then I don’t think I’ve seen pictures of su-34 with r77s, only its brother the su-32fn or whatever it is.
And I’ve never seen it carry r77s in special operation videos either

“Brother” puts it kindly…

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Surely it’s just because VKS doctrine doesn’t dictate that it’s needed and not for any other totally not technical related reason…

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Is there a proof of “technical related reaason”? I am not saying it can or cannot, but if you have a proof i would love to look at it for curiosity sake

It’s mainly speculation you’d expect over the past ~30 or so years Su-34 has existed that there would’ve been at least one single video or picture of it actually firing an R-27R/ER/77… Except there hasn’t… Only dummies and mockups… And even when Su-34 carried live R-27R/ERs in Syria that’s not to say it was simply as a means of intimidation and not to actually use them.

That already exist those were just names given to su-35s that tested r-37m if I remember right

Then why they even put them on pylons? it’s a 350 kilo dead weight if you can’t use them.

Well, i can understand why such speculations exist and why people tend to agree with this position more.

  1. propaganda
  2. scare off a bit
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Su-35SM isn’t a real designation yet as far as I’ve heard? Pretty sure Su-35S getting R-37Ms was the plan from the since the late 2000s, since it at least was for Su-27SM3…

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I swear I remember seeing an image of it… lemme see if I can go find it

it’s a 350 kilo dead weight if you can’t use them.

Hence “simply as a means of intimidation”

Also the newer Su-34E brochures not mentioning either is also quite suspect as well…

With this logic every single thing can be stretched out to “propaganda”

Who are we scaring with SARH missile in 21st century?

well
it can be, but in case above it’s quite easy to be seen.
and you fell for it…

its more of the fact that there is smth, rather than it’s capability.