Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

we already know how good it is… it’s just 16500 kgf, slightly less than what i was expecting. kinda disappointing tbh. It’s not that special, basically on par with the f119 f-22 albeit its a lot lighter
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Jesus Christ, that number on a Su35 would be insane

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If its intakes will provide enough air.

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It’s only thrust values. There’s plenty of other things to consider irl, be it price, maintenance difficulty or time, fuel efficiency etc.

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No?
Us does 5th gen in quite huge amounts

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lmao.

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I find it funny how the empty weight increased by 2 tons compared to a legacy flanker, but the combat weight didnt, its kind of complicated

They must have used tungsten, otherwise I don’t really know what they’ve done…

me if we ever get a AL-51 powered flanker

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Lmfao. couldn’t think of a better clip to describe it

Su-35 is getting a reshaped derivative of byelka

Su-35S"M" lobby rejoice!

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I hope its still has gimbal because that would be so kino

wait what where can I read dis

Nowhere probably. Mostly news sources that are based on “it came to me in a dream”. Sure there could be truth in the things that they are saying but for now it’s just rumors. I particularly liked the one that said Su-35SM will get AL-41F1 adaptation instead of F1S which will remove oxygen engine system from the aircraft. And that in a process of modernisation Su-35S might loose around 6 tons of weight.
If all this is true it will be glorious but… it is IF all this is true.

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a specific person i know from discord…
yes sadly this is “trust me bro” statement, but he is reliable…

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aight brah

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You are making me dream.

If I’m not mistaken, AL51s are custom-made only for the Su-57, and are compatible with the future Su-57M, right?

Well, “technically” you can put any engine in any airframe… if you are rich enough to afford all the structural changes that might come with it. AL-41F-1S als supposed to be custom fit for Su-35S because of airframe changes but apparently you can modify Su-30SM2 airframe to fit it inside.

can possible fit in flankers too, al51 is just a slightly shorter al41 in terms of dimensions
however given that 177s kinda exists, who knows if they wanna give it new engines it will be 177s or 51

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