dont look like
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What is this then?
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Fun fact about the Su-30 model, if you run single R-77s between the engines, they don’t have pylons, they just float.
these ? maybe yea
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Yeah, I was thinking either maws or laser warning or both
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There’s no evidence you can’t without getting that pilot [or one of similar skill] to play War Thunder and attempting it in War Thunder.
Edit: This is purely an argument that we need someone of high skill to give us in-game testing.
Nothing more.
That way Su-30SM+ can be as accurate as possible.
that take is so stupid that thinking about a response hurts
first of all your message since i know you like editing them after the fact
so i need the exact same pilot to due a manouver in WT to know that gaijin modeled the FM incorrect?
what a load of BS
everyone who has played the su30 and seen an airshow of it knows that it cant perform most of the manouvers ingame due to excessive speed loss and lack of lift at low speed and you dont need any of the pilots doing the airshows to confirm that
so i need that exact pilot to tell me what i can already see?
that the stall behavior is incorrect?
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As always su30 doesn’t have enough lift at low speed and is likely overperforming at high speed
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nah you need one of the pilots to tell you that otherwise there is no evidence
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Him Saying that you need a pilot is hilarious, like do we not have eye balls?
even better:
gaijin dosent take pilot statments as a source
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@ron_23
You need someone of the same skill to attempt that maneuver in War Thunder to prove it’s not possible.
Neither of us are as skilled a pilot as him, statistically speaking less than 0.001% of the War Thunder playerbase will even be good enough to be an airshow pilot.
Also LMAO at you thinking pilot testimony will prove anything.
Gaijin doesn’t take pilot statements as a source, Ron. Everyone knows this.
And testimony is shaky at best, which is why I suggested we need testing done in War Thunder by that pilot, or someone provably as skilled as that pilot:
You even literally 100% agreed with me here:
Nice job contradicting yourself by agreeing with me. XD
stop with that BS you might as well not try to argue
then why say this:
you are the one contradicting yourself
because it dosent matter who that pilot is and what he does and replicating an airshow manouver isnt some kind of witchcraft
as proven by this guy:
and he sure as hell isnt a su30 pilot and managed to replicate the airshow manouvers
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You forgot something here, flying a jet is infinitely easier in warthunder than irl. Most of the playerbase wouldn’t be able to fly a jet in a real war yet we’re frequently pulling some pretty tough moves in the game. I don’t think your argument makes any kind of sense.
And if you think we can compare the difficulty of a real maneuver with that of a wt maneuver, then you’re gonna want to trust my opinions because in game I’ve pulled maneuvers that flanker pilots would not even dream about.
I’m glad we agree about the ease of War Thunder.
However, one factor that prevent War Thunder from being as precise is that War Thunder doesn’t have split throttle ability. So all split throttle maneuvers are impossible to replicate in War Thunder.
My argument is you need someone of equal skill to do as many attempts of that maneuver, and if none get close in say 20+ attempts, then it’s potentially impossible in War Thunder.
The more attempts, the bigger the data pool.
That’s exclusively my argument.
And if that maneuver requires split throttle, then we probably have to wait for split throttle.
@ron_23
Yes ron, thanks for proving my point with this video: Of course, mods aren’t official flight models so he’d probably need to train on War Thunder’s models, but he’s a potential candidate for testing such a maneuver and proving or disproving capability in War Thunder.
Now that, the lack of split throttle (except on the tomcat I think?) is a good argument on why it wouldn’t be possible.
But as of the difficulty of such a maneuver, if it was technically possible I’m pretty much certain there are some pro players out there that could do it, be it after a ton of attempts.
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THAT is what I want to see.
I want this to either be disprove or proved via someone skilled.
That is all the intent of my post, which I’ve added as an edit to the original post.
Notice how I never once argue the accuracy of the flight model in our discussion here.
I don’t know, and speaking on things I don’t know is something I won’t do.
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Fair point I guess
Apparently, there’s a proposal to upgrade Bars to AESA. Probably not yet set in stone.
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SM2 with Aesa would be cool
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