Longest range kill was by a f14 using pheonix afaik
Then comes r37m at 177
Pl15e max range range is 145km, I don’t know how it’s longest range kill
what is the source for the longest range kill ? there are no footage with the launch range in it ?. so it could be anything starting from 100.
Not quite, the low flying aircraft need to pop up before an attack and thats when they are detected the S-400, A-50 systems then pass that data on to a VVS asset and the target is engaged.
The Su-35/MIG 31 Radar is not good enough to detect aircraft 300km away when they are flying low.
Most of the shoot downs have been after the strike has been carried out. We had MiG 29 shot down after a HAMMER strike.
I wouldnt be so quick to discount the Russian ground based Radar systems.
We alwere talking about a specific situation
In which a high flying su35 engages low flying planes 160km away
Iam not doing that, iam just saying that in the specific situation discussed the possibility of ground radars picking those planes up is pretty low, due to my point above
at 0:58 you can see a su30sm launching two r-27s at the same time
would be cool if we could find some more info about this and have it added in to the game
what about the N001VEP on the su27sm tho?
Could be possible irl, but I don’t think that there is any source for it
Iam only sure that the bars might be able to do it and there are sources for the Irbis
But for the N001VEP I can’t tell
At same target?
no, different targets
Russia likely plans to deliver equipment for 12 Su-57 and 14 Su-34 jets to Algeria, 48 Su-35 to Iran, and 6 Su-35 to Ethiopia.
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It was standard practice to fire two missiles at certain targets to increase the % kill chance, but we are also aware of the fact that they can lock and fire on multiple targets at the same time with R-27R depending on the aircraft and radar set.
Give Airburst Warhead pliz. All the video of that thing working its just Chef Kiss
Sure but a radar 200km ahead of the launch aircraft, particularly ones like the mast mounted 76N6 “Clam Shell” radar do account for that for example. The point being a radar that is both closer and within view of the target is almost always available in the current conflict.
Yes, DL works boths ways, nobody is saying it doesnt.
You dont lose 2 (i checked, its 2 in action) AWACS by not “REALLY” using them. Russia most definitely uses AWACS, and it uses them heavily in the current conflict.
There’s aircraft all over the place in the conflict. Su-34’s doing bombing runs closer to the frontlines could provide datalink track data for example. Just because an aircraft launched a missile, doesn’t mean it was the closest, just means it had the highest pK% of currently available launch options.
They are not “all” flying low, nor are they flying low for their whole flight.
Jets arent “sent” like in old interceptor situations back in the 1980’s or in times of peace, they have jets running patrols over predetermined areas and get tasked to targets of opportunity. The Su-35 taking the shot was likely the best option available within the battlespace at the time.
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yeah this thing
Spoiler
It wasn’t
Was the longest publicly known air to air missile kill in combat until recently, when during the India/Pakistan skirmishes, a Rafale was shot down by a PL-15E with both sides agreeing the shot was made from over 200km (Pakistan claims ~200km, India claims ~230km iirc)
This may blow your mind, but the public numbers for missiles that are currently in service, particularly rather new ones like the PL-15E, tend to be lies so as to not give your opponents info on your true capabilities. Apparently this is a pretty hard concept for people to grasp though, and they genuinely take everything posted publicly as hard facts instead of the very loose approximations that these numbers ACTUALLY represent…
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India does not officially claim any Rafale was shot down. I think there’s a CNN article of a US intelligence official that may have commented on it in confidence, but that’s the only thing I’ve seen.
Officially according to Dassault, the Rafale didn’t get shot down and had an incident in flight.
This isn’t to say that I claim or believe no Rafales were shot down, but it is important to state there is no official claim acknowledging the shoot down. Only some acknowledgements that some jets were shot down as far as I’ve seen from their end (India).
Mind giving me sources for that? Because the only range values given was from a fan made animation, which said it was around 180km, but no sources were backed for that
Rafale crashed down around 80 - 85km from the border, a 200-230km kill means the launcher should’ve been around 130-150km away from the border (value cannot be concrete because the target abviously covered some distance by itself) which doesn’t make sense for a jet such inside the country to engage and get a kill on a target instead of the patrolling aircrafts much near the border
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I cant currently find where I had seen the 230km claim I’m remembering, so take it with a grain of salt.
Either way, not really the thread for this.
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Are there any updates for AESA on su35s? Or will it even happen?
After testing the Su30 a little more I was really pleased to see that it can regularly get to mach 1.4/5 (1700kmh) at mid alt, and this is with just 1000-ish kgf of thrust total, gives me even more hype for the AL-41’s ngl, which is like at least 1500 kgf more per engine.
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