Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

because playing the most optimal isnt always the most fun

Because its funny when you catch people off-guard with a 60km+ launch.

can confirm that

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i’ve done 50km with the normal su-27s… 60km i cant image because su30sm is so slow compared to normal su27s so it has no energy. at beginning of match, i usually climb to 11k, then fire r27er, do defensive circle while going to 5k alt, then relock

I have done it multiple time. Usually the missile catch the people trying to launch their missile before the notch. I could have done a lot more time. But like 90% of the time the radar refuse to lock the target i have a soft lock.

do you use hdn or normal tws?

Usually both. With HDN i feel like it detected people faster.

Turns out that if you turn off your autoflares and don’t counter the incoming missile, you get hit by it, crazy

Makes zero sense why a Typhoon would turn off auto flares and chaff.

Typhoon has plenty of countermeasures.
Especially if it worked the way it should IRL.

I find the R-27ER to be a bit more reliable at those 40km+ launches compared to the R-77-1, the R-77-1 loses its speed much more aggressively when maneuvering compared to the R-27ER

Also with the recent hard limit for missile speeds removed it can now reach Mach 5. So I’d imagine it probably got even stronger this update, same with the fakour as well

It makes very much sense to turn them off

Because if I flare a missile myself iam not going to waste 60 CMs on it

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are you outdated?

No I rather have my plane not waste half my CMs to flare a missile in an aspect where it won’t be properly flared

And I also don’t want my jet to waste CMs on a missile that isnt even shot at me

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The player hasn’t seen it though the MAWS coverage as the system is classified we cannot disprove the standard 45 degree detection window for DASS.

Had the DASS system functioned and the missile was detected the player could have easilly flared the missile as it doesnt function correctly in game we have this.

I run with them both on auto for air and ground battles

Nobody talked about the coverage of the maw

Stop moving the goalpost and stop coping

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More so as alternative to not having the cms slaved the MAW simply didnt see the missile.

It probably has less to do with losing energy, and more to do with being more difficult to defeat it’s seeker.

Any ARH thrown long-range is trivially easily to notch, by that time they all have massive gaps in between when their seekers light up RWRs and impact.

The ER meanwhile has no real indication on how close it is, and has a narrower window within which it must be notched. It also benefits from IOG, being able to better maintain a target through a notch.

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I think you mean datalink reconnect not iog, all arh missiles have iog, but r27er has true datalink reconnect while arh missiles can only use datalink reconnect in lookdown and only if the launcher maintains a lock on the air craft.
R27er also has 5x worse iog than arh missiles.
And for some reason the r-27r series has 2x worse iog than r-24r?

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maybe it was fired in his deadzone ?