Ok I will bite based on what, what allows a Su-35 to sustain 10g…Bare in mind the pilot would likely black out in any sustained 10g turn.
Why cant a Rafale or a Typhoon achieve this almost certainly an F-22 could…And that was in service way before Su-35S was.
J-16 will use it’s missile to be more effective PL-17s and PL-15s will still be brutally effective even if the airframe is a little slower than the Russian equivalents.
Wasn’t the 10gs only for the su-35/su-27m? Su-35s is still limited to 9gs.
He means the airframe is rated for 10gs… However, that is only for the preproduction su-35/su-27m, which is a completely different aircraft from the su-35s.
Right he means airframe ratings fair enough, most I have seen have in the region of +9/-3g
Typhoon certainly is
Yup, su-35s limited to 9gs here.
even though it says su-35 not su-35s, we know its an su-35s by looking at the other pages of the brochure, as it has the no35 irbis radar, oleps 35 irst and the su-35s cockpit
Exactly, you would just end up compressing badly, I would like the improved acceleration, especially to give more kinetic energy to the R-77-1, but notching would become way more difficult.
More or less yes, it’s a passive radar seeker AAM
Su-37 also loses out on the TIALD TGP making CAS weaponry much less usable on it
I mean, considering the state of Soviet top tier CAS… do we really need another CAS jet? Personally would prefer a strong air superiority (and CAP in TRB)
The reason why i’m saying 703 would be cooler is because ot can do both, it’s like the 30SM in that way
Me when TVC works as inteded:
(It’s 1/10 times)
only thing that missed is you getting 3rd partied afterwards, because you were slow
The bad ending
Besting a Typhoon is close range dogfight…
Shows how poor Typhoons fm is
Typhoon like Rafale matched and defeated an F-22 WVR…Su-30 is not on Typhoons level
the typhoon shouldnt be winning a slow speed df against a plane with TVC
a EF should never get into a slow speed df
it is well known that the EF has a 25° AOA limiter IRL, with which you wont win a slow speed knife fight against a TVC plane
Typhoon is the best DF in game wth are u talking abt…
In the same exact scenario, with a Rafale playing the same way the Eurofighter did, it would have lost regardless, if you take a dogfight so slow like this against a Su-30 you are gonna open opportunities for it.
All dogfights get slow.
You cant dogfight at mach 1.2.
We can see a Rafale beating an F-22
In a slow prolonged dogfight Rafale beat an F-22
If we substitute that F-22 for a Su-30…why in game would the result be different?
you can, but not in rb
slow is sub 500kph a place where you dont want to end up
you ideally want to stay at around 700 - 800 kph so you have enough energy to actually do something
the F22 wouldnt be able to hit the same exact shot because it dosent have TVC on the YAW axis
Thats fair the Su-30 has 3d thrust vectoring.
Would you expect a Su-30 to beat an F-22?
In that scenario?